Stephen A. and Max Kellerman get into a heated debate over load management in the NBA | First Take

Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman debate the impact that load management has on the NBA season.
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  • Max is right, 90s NBA is being too romanticized... when you rewatch it today it is the slowest game ever, now it's literally a fast break on all possession. The zone defence has changed the lot, and scoring is quite harder

    benjicool2808benjicool280810 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • He just be talking just to debate

    Daron CoatesDaron Coates17 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • It's a natural part of competition that it only gets stiffer as time goes on, because current players are the accumulated versions of the players before. By definition the players now are always better and more competitive than before. Stephen A is a buffoon.

    M IbrahimM Ibrahim2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Man you cheated the fans that why the NBA suck today it will never be better than the 80s and 90s

    Chaunsey BillingsChaunsey Billings4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Is like this Max....Players this days are a little to soft and babied to much....

    EZYmoney MikeEZYmoney Mike6 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • smh max... just stick to boxing

    MAX AcousticsMAX Acoustics6 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Before Lebron started doing it, i always thought load management was participating in no fap November.

    bustdetectorbustdetector7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • NBA tickets aren't cheap and definitely not cheap when u have a family then spend money on concessions. I agree with SAS with this one. I recently went to a game and it wasn't cheap so I def want to see the best product on the court.

    Braves FanBraves Fan7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Load management is a mixed topic, my personal opinion, if a player is making millions of dollars and they sit out because of load management is just dumb. People pay to see these players play, I think no play, no pay.

    Ephraim RosenbergEphraim Rosenberg7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Max was wrong on the defense now vs 80’s. I don’t remember the last time I watched a game that both teams didn’t score 100 points

    Goonersurex RexGoonersurex Rex7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Yes. Players today play with more intensity. The game is faster. Nutrition and fitness have advance. Players today are considerably better than twenty years ago.

    sld1776sld17767 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Max thats bullshit. Then remove season just go straight playoffs punk

    Sultan MabiniSultan Mabini7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Units for energy expended on Kawhi Leonard's knee... Lord. What part of it's all about the Larry OB don't you jokers understand? Next topic please.

    Busted KenyaBusted Kenya7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Jordan is the GOAT. Kobe is the best to ever do it.

    ryublueblankaryublueblanka7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Eric Cartmen - "You're mine Max Kellerman..."

    ryublueblankaryublueblanka7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Max is wrong! The customer is always right and in this case it's the fans so it's bs that they don't get what they pay for and btw.. every new team would get destroyed by their 80s, 90s version lol change my mind

    crash bashhhcrash bashhh7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • They can say what they like unless they can tell you at the start of the season which games they will be playing in inspite of load management. So that nobody can show up to the games where there favorite players wont play. The science is fine but you've already changed so much and still try to compare them to past era's. After this it's over. Jordan played hurt. Exhausted. Sick. He played and they all did. Max is insane and wants this job forever. Satisfy the bosses with your praise for the current product so the fan always feel like his experience is the best experience. Bullshit.

    kingogkingswoodzkingogkingswoodz7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Stephen A on point lol 24/7

    RayRayRayRay7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Oh Max 🤦‍♂️

    Darth WolvenDarth Wolven7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I feel like at the end of the day that player is making money because of the fan. A player gets endorsements and money because fans like them. If no one shows up for the game, if no one buys that players jerseys then that player will NOT make the money they are making. So the least they can do is play for that family who just paid hundreds if not thousands of dollars they really don't have to see their fave player play.

    The Light KnightThe Light Knight7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Defense is harder now. Mainly for the hand check rule change and the rise of 3's. U cant even touch these guys when they have the ball anymore. U can get a foul on a 3 without even touching the guy who took the 3. Plus some of these guys u gotta guard as soon as the get past the logo.

    Camaron MazyckCamaron Mazyck7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I miss skip Bayless 🥺

    Danny SanchezDanny Sanchez7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Go Max go!

    Cee MacCee Mac7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Stephen A. isn't arguing with Skip Bayless anymore, Max is just so much smarter than Stephen, it's not easy. I actually feel for Stephen because he's a good dude, but Max is just a superior arguer.

    Paul PastoraPaul Pastora7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • what?? so the fans determine who plays because they buy a few tickets?? 🤣🤣 This is just beyond stupid. THE COACH AND THE PLAYER decides if he plays, END OF IT. fans arent really qualified to make decisions like that SAS?? neither are you for that matter

    p0kerviK1N67p0kerviK1N677 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I dont agree with Max on this one. I watched ball in the 80's.

    Uraeus LadipoUraeus Ladipo7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Players just being weak. If they only care about the Playoffs do the following: Cut the regular season from 82 games to 52 games. They won't bc the league and its owners are greedy. As a paying customer, we coming to see our team and our favorite players.

    L. SmithL. Smith7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • too much analytics

    Aubrey WallaceAubrey Wallace7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • ya'll talk so much u missing the rules change factor. which affects the dynamics of intensity. u ever wondered y there was chants of Dee fence as opposed to today its non existent. bottom line is in today's game being more complicated players are asked to do more but just '"shadow "the opponent don't touch no body to body contact. I call to the stand as witnesses Xzavia McDaniel John starks and Charles oakley.. and the prosecution must offer similar players from today's game..prosecution...we find that a daunting task your honor so we subject to the defences defenses its like night and day A famous quote from Pat Riley at that time was " some players look like they're playing hard but doing nothing. in other words its make believe..this help defences is a joke back in the day u on your own. they would play that same game today with different results from trapping and helping. ya'll auth to do wat the Wolf man used to say " Let's go to the Vedio " and we rest our case your Honor

    Aubrey WallaceAubrey Wallace7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Kawhi has said before that he did not like regular season, regular season is just practice for him. So he tries to join a really good team to try to carry him into playoff and when he gets there, he's fully charged up and everybody is tired so he has advantage. Right now, he has Paul George as his personal slave to try and make up for his absence--his team mates are like plantation laborers working for him to carry him to playoffs.

    Red CloudRed Cloud7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I knew from the thumbnail this would be a silly one

    Daniel NeumenDaniel Neumen7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • So if steven a loads manages his appearances on first take is first take the same ? Max. Look if every superstar starts to load manage because they want a ship. How do we have a league ? And do we pay to see the superstars to be on a bench????

    Loso 82Loso 827 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Max is the idiot of all idiots.

    Dom JohnsonDom Johnson7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Kellerman is a phony punk. Along with that putz Bayless.

    Ray ChristensenRay Christensen7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I agree with Max.

    grafnberggrafnberg7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • What about baseball max? In any sport😂 the lies y'all be telling

    Jaylean CopelandJaylean Copeland7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Come on Max, all the walking, carrying, crib dribbling, no hand checking, and double step backing, that goes on in todays NBA? Believe me the players in the 60's, 70's 80's and 90's played a lot harder than these over payed drama queens that are running up and down the courts today.....

    jd2616jd26167 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Guys were getting beat up in the 90s remember the bad boys those guys were tryna kill you max insane

    Mike DeanMike Dean7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • nfl the coach? sure players dont matter Max we can see that, MLB the GM ? sure Max we can see that (sarcasm* . You sir are wrong , very wrong.

    Daze OverDaze Over7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • SAS stupid af

    Maury PMaury P7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Maybe Max is just smarter than you,they push you up because you the loud black guy

    Keepinit100 EverydayKeepinit100 Everyday7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Tenacity/intensity no. But they do need to defend more people than they did back then. The hunger isn't there now like there was, but the design of the defense today requires that every player be defended

    Joe PalmerJoe Palmer7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Stephen: “That’s not what I’m saying” Except he says it all the time Stephen A Smith, the Donald Trump of basketball.

    jc sjjc sj7 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • But he didn't say it this time 🤦🏾‍♂️

      Chukwuka MorkaChukwuka Morka7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Max is wrong Stephen Curry, Trae young, Devin Booker, would not even have made a practice Squad in the 80's, 90's and early 2000's

    Maynard BainesMaynard Baines7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • So fans shouldn't have to pay till the playoffs then, load management is a ripoff and insult to the fans, reimburse the fans partially or play the games, these are athletes not rockstars

    Maynard BainesMaynard Baines7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Do these guys ever loose their voice from all the yelling?

    Maribel V-BMaribel V-B7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Max, you sounded very ridiculous. How could you elevate the intensity of today's basketball over back in the days. I'll join Stephen A Smith and say, Max, "you're wrong and here's why...." These current NBA players are much less intense and get paid much more money. And now with all the money they make, they have the audacity to talk about "load management".I Load management indeed so they sit their behinds down and play video games right.... Let's get real.

    W JoshuaW Joshua7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Opening us up hard. 👊

    Alex SmithAlex Smith7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • If you are up 20 after 3 quarters, you can sit out on the 4th. That's load management.

    Trackstar35Trackstar357 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Why is Max and Stephen always excited and pumped to tell each other "you are wrong". Per Stephen A Smith, "and here is why...." Lol!

    W JoshuaW Joshua7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I've no problem with coaches limiting minutes. But to sit out stars for entire games is wrong. It should result in partially discounted/refunded tickets.

    Stephen PamphileStephen Pamphile7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Max need to be drug tested

    Jeremiah ClarkJeremiah Clark7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • The game is stretched to the 3 point line and increased space to be defended so defenses need to cover more area . Hence players expend more energy. In the past you could sag off most of the players and pack the paint without moving cause most guys could'nt shoot a lick

    Krishna sidhartha PotluriKrishna sidhartha Potluri7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Let the fans refund the ticket I bet load management would be gone.

    David NguyenDavid Nguyen7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • someone sue the NBA for load management games. they basically selling diamond rings without diamond.

    Jae- jinJae- jin7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Max is skip bayless 2.0, on tuesday he said the niners are the best team in the world, now hes sayin todays nba plays harder then the 90's lol

    Reignman96Reignman967 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Stephen A look like a disgruntled peanut

    Nylis RobinsonNylis Robinson7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • no way the defense now is anywhere NEAR what it was in the 1990s... what is max talking about???

    Gee Gnome ProjectGee Gnome Project7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • it really started with bird vs magic plus mj---first it was who was better magic or larry? ...and then when it was clear that mike was the best in the nba people began saying " yeah but does he make his team mates better? can he win?" --so mj took off before that PERFORMANCE was highly regarded even without championships

    Gee Gnome ProjectGee Gnome Project7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • SAS: Max you're right but here's where you're wrong.

    Youknow KnowYouknow Know7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Max is usually the delusional one, but SAS is crazy to say players played harder during the 80's and 90's! Sure the game was rougher back then, but that doesn't mean players were giving their 100%. The competition nowadays has reached an all time high, the amount players coming from countries other than the US has also peaked . To be honest i think SAS is just having a bad day !

    Zuhayr KhanZuhayr Khan7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Hey guys did you know they didn’t have social media in 1992?

    Perfect texture for joggingPerfect texture for jogging7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • These guys have never seen a soccer game in their life

    Trevor SternTrevor Stern7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Max still on the crack pipe, I see. If you’ve watched the tape, which is very limited, they played the same way in the 60s and 70s. Up and down, really fast. Granted they weren’t the athletes they are now, but that’s why the stats were so gaudy then and why they are now. Max obviously isn’t educated enough on basketball history as he’d like to think. But guys back then weren’t afraid to play til the buzzer and weren’t as soft and supple as guys are now. They only cared about basketball.

    pendletondrewpendletondrew7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I wonder what the guys like Reggie Miller, and Rip Hamilton thought of their energy output; constantly running in circles on the offensive end trying to get an open three as compared to... Set me a high pick and let me step 4 feet behind the line to shoot a three... because lazy. How about those defenders that had to chase them around in circles because zone defense wasn't allowed back then. Compare fast breaks where you would be benched for shooting a 3 on the break and now most guys don't even run the full length of the court and just jackup a three for at least a third of the fast breaks now. Unless they are wide open to the hoop. The only thing guys do now that takes up more energy is guard the guy with the ball a couple feet behind the ark. That is literally it.

    mrjones422mrjones4227 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Stop it Max. Nobody thinks Bill Russell is a better player than Wilt Chamberlain.. I certainly don’t lol

    Stuntman BeatzStuntman Beatz7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Why does he always needs to yell when he talks? Max is just chilling.

    El MillonarioEl Millonario7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Jordan is the worst example to use. He was great but took multiple years off from basketball, multiple times. Obviously it took its toll him or else he woulda played. Nice try tho.

    Ronnie WhiteRonnie White7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • no the real of all freak athletes is shaq could’ve been the goat well he is to me if he wasn’t lazy

    DarreanDarrean7 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Look at the NHL, they play 60min games and the most elite players will play between 20-22mins a game, excluding defensemen who play more like 25. It's simple, either add a few more players by increasing the draft and cap space or give bench players more time then the 10-12mins they usually get. Let them play 20+ and let the starters decrease their play time into a more manageable 25min average.

    outherefilmsoutherefilms7 หลายเดือนก่อน
Stephen A. and Max Kellerman get into a heated debate over load management in the NBA | First Take