Stephen A. and Max Kellerman get into a heated debate over load management in the NBA | First Take

Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman debate the impact that load management has on the NBA season.
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  • Before Lebron started doing it, i always thought load management was participating in no fap November.

    bustdetectorbustdetector20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
  • NBA tickets aren't cheap and definitely not cheap when u have a family then spend money on concessions. I agree with SAS with this one. I recently went to a game and it wasn't cheap so I def want to see the best product on the court.

    Braves FanBraves Fan7 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Max: you’re wrong and here’s why

    Alex LiuAlex Liu10 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • MJ is amazing....but Wayne Gretzky is the best athlete at his sport and it's not even close

    DeetrainDeetrain11 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Load management is a mixed topic, my personal opinion, if a player is making millions of dollars and they sit out because of load management is just dumb. People pay to see these players play, I think no play, no pay.

    Ephraim RosenbergEphraim Rosenberg14 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Max was wrong on the defense now vs 80’s. I don’t remember the last time I watched a game that both teams didn’t score 100 points

    Goonersurex RexGoonersurex Rex15 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Yes. Players today play with more intensity. The game is faster. Nutrition and fitness have advance. Players today are considerably better than twenty years ago.

    sld1776sld177616 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Max thats bullshit. Then remove season just go straight playoffs punk

    Sultan MabiniSultan Mabini17 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Units for energy expended on Kawhi Leonard's knee... Lord. What part of it's all about the Larry OB don't you jokers understand? Next topic please.

    Busted KenyaBusted Kenya18 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Jordan is the GOAT. Kobe is the best to ever do it.

    ryublueblankaryublueblanka18 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Eric Cartmen - "You're mine Max Kellerman..."

    ryublueblankaryublueblanka18 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Max is wrong! The customer is always right and in this case it's the fans so it's bs that they don't get what they pay for and btw.. every new team would get destroyed by their 80s, 90s version lol change my mind

    crash bashhhcrash bashhh18 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • They can say what they like unless they can tell you at the start of the season which games they will be playing in inspite of load management. So that nobody can show up to the games where there favorite players wont play. The science is fine but you've already changed so much and still try to compare them to past era's. After this it's over. Jordan played hurt. Exhausted. Sick. He played and they all did. Max is insane and wants this job forever. Satisfy the bosses with your praise for the current product so the fan always feel like his experience is the best experience. Bullshit.

    kingogkingswoodzkingogkingswoodz18 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Stephen A on point lol 24/7

    RayRayRayRay20 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Oh Max 🤦‍♂️

    SlashervilleSlasherville20 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I feel like at the end of the day that player is making money because of the fan. A player gets endorsements and money because fans like them. If no one shows up for the game, if no one buys that players jerseys then that player will NOT make the money they are making. So the least they can do is play for that family who just paid hundreds if not thousands of dollars they really don't have to see their fave player play.

    The Light KnightThe Light Knight20 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Defense is harder now. Mainly for the hand check rule change and the rise of 3's. U cant even touch these guys when they have the ball anymore. U can get a foul on a 3 without even touching the guy who took the 3. Plus some of these guys u gotta guard as soon as the get past the logo.

    Camaron MazyckCamaron Mazyck20 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I miss skip Bayless 🥺

    Danny SanchezDanny Sanchez21 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Go Max go!

    Cee MacCee Mac21 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Stephen A. isn't arguing with Skip Bayless anymore, Max is just so much smarter than Stephen, it's not easy. I actually feel for Stephen because he's a good dude, but Max is just a superior arguer.

    Paul PastoraPaul Pastora21 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • what?? so the fans determine who plays because they buy a few tickets?? 🤣🤣 This is just beyond stupid. THE COACH AND THE PLAYER decides if he plays, END OF IT. fans arent really qualified to make decisions like that SAS?? neither are you for that matter

    p0kerViK1N67p0kerViK1N6721 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I dont agree with Max on this one. I watched ball in the 80's.

    Uraeus LadipoUraeus Ladipo21 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Players just being weak. If they only care about the Playoffs do the following: Cut the regular season from 82 games to 52 games. They won't bc the league and its owners are greedy. As a paying customer, we coming to see our team and our favorite players.

    L. SmithL. Smith22 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • too much analytics

    Aubrey WallaceAubrey Wallace22 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • ya'll talk so much u missing the rules change factor. which affects the dynamics of intensity. u ever wondered y there was chants of Dee fence as opposed to today its non existent. bottom line is in today's game being more complicated players are asked to do more but just '"shadow "the opponent don't touch no body to body contact. I call to the stand as witnesses Xzavia McDaniel John starks and Charles oakley.. and the prosecution must offer similar players from today's game..prosecution...we find that a daunting task your honor so we subject to the defences defenses its like night and day A famous quote from Pat Riley at that time was " some players look like they're playing hard but doing nothing. in other words its make believe..this help defences is a joke back in the day u on your own. they would play that same game today with different results from trapping and helping. ya'll auth to do wat the Wolf man used to say " Let's go to the Vedio " and we rest our case your Honor

    Aubrey WallaceAubrey Wallace22 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Kawhi has said before that he did not like regular season, regular season is just practice for him. So he tries to join a really good team to try to carry him into playoff and when he gets there, he's fully charged up and everybody is tired so he has advantage. Right now, he has Paul George as his personal slave to try and make up for his absence--his team mates are like plantation laborers working for him to carry him to playoffs.

    Red CloudRed Cloud22 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I knew from the thumbnail this would be a silly one

    Rick AbanonRick Abanon22 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • So if steven a loads manages his appearances on first take is first take the same ? Max. Look if every superstar starts to load manage because they want a ship. How do we have a league ? And do we pay to see the superstars to be on a bench????

    Carlos RiberaCarlos Ribera22 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Max is the idiot of all idiots.

    Dom JohnsonDom Johnson22 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Kellerman is a phony punk. Along with that putz Bayless.

    Ray ChristensenRay Christensen22 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I agree with Max.

    grafnberggrafnberg23 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • What about baseball max? In any sport😂 the lies y'all be telling

    Jaylean CopelandJaylean Copeland23 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Come on Max, all the walking, carrying, crib dribbling, no hand checking, and double step backing, that goes on in todays NBA? Believe me the players in the 60's, 70's 80's and 90's played a lot harder than these over payed drama queens that are running up and down the courts today.....

    jd2616jd261623 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Guys were getting beat up in the 90s remember the bad boys those guys were tryna kill you max insane

    Mike DeanMike Dean24 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • nfl the coach? sure players dont matter Max we can see that, MLB the GM ? sure Max we can see that (sarcasm* . You sir are wrong , very wrong.

    Daze OverDaze Over24 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • SAS stupid af

    Maury PMaury P25 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Maybe Max is just smarter than you,they push you up because you the loud black guy

    Keepinit100 EverydayKeepinit100 Everyday25 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Tenacity/intensity no. But they do need to defend more people than they did back then. The hunger isn't there now like there was, but the design of the defense today requires that every player be defended

    Joe PalmerJoe Palmer26 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Stephen: “That’s not what I’m saying” Except he says it all the time Stephen A Smith, the Donald Trump of basketball.

    jc sjjc sj26 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • But he didn't say it this time 🤦🏾‍♂️

      Chukwuka MorkaChukwuka Morka24 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Max is wrong Stephen Curry, Trae young, Devin Booker, would not even have made a practice Squad in the 80's, 90's and early 2000's

    Maynard BainesMaynard Baines26 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • So fans shouldn't have to pay till the playoffs then, load management is a ripoff and insult to the fans, reimburse the fans partially or play the games, these are athletes not rockstars

    Maynard BainesMaynard Baines26 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Do these guys ever loose their voice from all the yelling?

    Maribel V-BMaribel V-B26 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Max, you sounded very ridiculous. How could you elevate the intensity of today's basketball over back in the days. I'll join Stephen A Smith and say, Max, "you're wrong and here's why...." These current NBA players are much less intense and get paid much more money. And now with all the money they make, they have the audacity to talk about "load management".I Load management indeed so they sit their behinds down and play video games right.... Let's get real.

    W JoshuaW Joshua26 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Opening us up hard. 👊

    Alex SmithAlex Smith26 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • If you are up 20 after 3 quarters, you can sit out on the 4th. That's load management.

    Trackstar35Trackstar3526 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Why is Max and Stephen always excited and pumped to tell each other "you are wrong". Per Stephen A Smith, "and here is why...." Lol!

    W JoshuaW Joshua27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I've no problem with coaches limiting minutes. But to sit out stars for entire games is wrong. It should result in partially discounted/refunded tickets.

    Stephen PamphileStephen Pamphile27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Max need to be drug tested

    Jeremiah ClarkJeremiah Clark27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • The game is stretched to the 3 point line and increased space to be defended so defenses need to cover more area . Hence players expend more energy. In the past you could sag off most of the players and pack the paint without moving cause most guys could'nt shoot a lick

    Krishna sidhartha PotluriKrishna sidhartha Potluri27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Let the fans refund the ticket I bet load management would be gone.

    David NguyenDavid Nguyen27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • someone sue the NBA for load management games. they basically selling diamond rings without diamond.

    Jae- jinJae- jin27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Max is skip bayless 2.0, on tuesday he said the niners are the best team in the world, now hes sayin todays nba plays harder then the 90's lol

    Reignman96Reignman9627 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Stephen A look like a disgruntled peanut

    Nylis RobinsonNylis Robinson27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • no way the defense now is anywhere NEAR what it was in the 1990s... what is max talking about???

    Gee Gnome ProjectGee Gnome Project27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • it really started with bird vs magic plus mj---first it was who was better magic or larry? ...and then when it was clear that mike was the best in the nba people began saying " yeah but does he make his team mates better? can he win?" --so mj took off before that PERFORMANCE was highly regarded even without championships

    Gee Gnome ProjectGee Gnome Project27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I punched Max in my dream

    Brian GBrian G27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • SAS: Max you're right but here's where you're wrong.

    Youknow KnowYouknow Know27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Max is usually the delusional one, but SAS is crazy to say players played harder during the 80's and 90's! Sure the game was rougher back then, but that doesn't mean players were giving their 100%. The competition nowadays has reached an all time high, the amount players coming from countries other than the US has also peaked . To be honest i think SAS is just having a bad day !

    Zuhayr KhanZuhayr Khan27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Max got hella pressed 🤣🤣

    LuminosityLuminosity27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Hey guys did you know they didn’t have social media in 1992?

    Perfect texture for joggingPerfect texture for jogging27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • These guys have never seen a soccer game in their life

    Trevor SternTrevor Stern27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Max still on the crack pipe, I see. If you’ve watched the tape, which is very limited, they played the same way in the 60s and 70s. Up and down, really fast. Granted they weren’t the athletes they are now, but that’s why the stats were so gaudy then and why they are now. Max obviously isn’t educated enough on basketball history as he’d like to think. But guys back then weren’t afraid to play til the buzzer and weren’t as soft and supple as guys are now. They only cared about basketball.

    pendletondrewpendletondrew27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I wonder what the guys like Reggie Miller, and Rip Hamilton thought of their energy output; constantly running in circles on the offensive end trying to get an open three as compared to... Set me a high pick and let me step 4 feet behind the line to shoot a three... because lazy. How about those defenders that had to chase them around in circles because zone defense wasn't allowed back then. Compare fast breaks where you would be benched for shooting a 3 on the break and now most guys don't even run the full length of the court and just jackup a three for at least a third of the fast breaks now. Unless they are wide open to the hoop. The only thing guys do now that takes up more energy is guard the guy with the ball a couple feet behind the ark. That is literally it.

    mrjones422mrjones42227 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Stop it Max. Nobody thinks Bill Russell is a better player than Wilt Chamberlain.. I certainly don’t lol

    Stuntman BeatzStuntman Beatz27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Why does he always needs to yell when he talks? Max is just chilling.

    El MillonarioEl Millonario27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Jordan is the worst example to use. He was great but took multiple years off from basketball, multiple times. Obviously it took its toll him or else he woulda played. Nice try tho.

    Ronnie WhiteRonnie White27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • no the real of all freak athletes is shaq could’ve been the goat well he is to me if he wasn’t lazy

    jamal a pot headjamal a pot head27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Look at the NHL, they play 60min games and the most elite players will play between 20-22mins a game, excluding defensemen who play more like 25. It's simple, either add a few more players by increasing the draft and cap space or give bench players more time then the 10-12mins they usually get. Let them play 20+ and let the starters decrease their play time into a more manageable 25min average.

    outherefilmsoutherefilms28 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • MAX IS ACTUALLY RIGHT

    IN THE KONSCIOUS HEBREWIN THE KONSCIOUS HEBREW28 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Did Kellerman just attempt to replace M.A. with M.J. , as the G.A.O.A.T. ? I added the all too often omitted letter "A" to this lauded acronym because Muhammad Ali himself often reminded us that their is only one who is The Greatest_ in his oft recited confession saying Allah-U-Akbar. In English translates to Allah (God) Is The Greatest. So we learn that without qualifications, there's only One Who is Thee Greatest. Therefore going forward, when we lavish praise upon men exulted to most excellent in the arena crafts, the highest accolade cannot exceed_the greatest athlete of all time(GAOAT.)

    Kenneth EdwardsKenneth Edwards28 วันที่ผ่านมา
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