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  • "Part racehorse. All workhorse." Subtle hint... the Mac mini produces more horseshit than its competitors. :-)

    M0rn1n6St4rM0rn1n6St4r4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
  • "Macs for Dummies". That logic cuts both ways.

    M0rn1n6St4rM0rn1n6St4r4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
  • You mean... Apple has been compounding hardware-design risks with "tweaks" in their OS, making their devices more likely to fail? Sounds like "user-inflicted damage" to me. smh Wac. It just breaks. WacBook Ail. Light. Paperweight. CrApple. Stink different. 💩🍎🍏💩 Frequent durable-goods replacement... the solution to climate change. 'Cause we can have our cake, and heat it, too! :-) No man-made solution to man-made climate change? No problem! The natural solution of drastic population reduction will be selected for our species instead. smh

    M0rn1n6St4rM0rn1n6St4r5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
  • "The looks and status symbol of owning the machine" oh come on! So many of developers use it just because of one thing and that is a system. In our company and many more, the Mac OS is just preferred... You would be surprised how many web developers can only work on Mac and have Windows desktops only as a gaming platform. Of course by this I am not saying there is not so many things to improve, I agree on better cooling that is needed and so on

    Traymer7Traymer77 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
  • 7:30: The answer is that fun laptop computers use too much electricity and would give a battery life of 30 minutes in thin constructs. A greater asset for Apple is the A processors, so the laptops are in a mode of "well, alright, we need to get rid of the items from this failed project anyway... a few billions on the side won't hurt us."

    elektron2kimelektron2kim15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
  • As a mac user, I can confirm. I've had previous bad experiences with windows (although this was a while ago) so I switched to mac. Considering switching back in a few years.

    Marshall Branin Real EstateMarshall Branin Real Estate15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
    • Just do both. Between 3 laptops, I run Windows XP, 7 Ultimate, 10 Pro, Mint, and MacOS. Not counting VMs.

      paolungpaolung15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
  • Is there a TLDR version? I don't get what he was saying about heating. Why do Apple's heat more than PC's? Apple just isn't providing sufficient cooling?

    Sir EricSir Eric15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
    • The gist of it is that Apple values style and simplicity, which means sub-optimal cooling solutions.

      paolungpaolung15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
  • Hi LTT, A crazy thought, but looking forward to a video on water cooling an Acer Nitro 5. Having trouble with building custom CPU block for mine.

    mnautssmnautss16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
  • Mach/XNU kernel was and still is ahead of NT, it's quite amazing

    Jim YJim Y21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
  • A "Mac" is a PC. Just sayin.

    Michael CriderMichael Criderวันที่ผ่านมา
  • Thanks Linus! Another great video!! So what about those free Linus Tech t-shirts you promised us? Remember, we just had to pay shipping...? I couldn't find the sign up...

    Chris BusenkellChris Busenkellวันที่ผ่านมา
  • Apple fan here... praise Stevey!! Macbook Pro is the most sublime creation of the human kind.

    Jommy BarbanJommy Barbanวันที่ผ่านมา
  • Fedora Linux works so well i don't miss Mac OSX and i'm using it on a Core i3 2012 motherboard. Even without Wayland it overperforms any mac i could get close too...

    mad scientistmad scientistวันที่ผ่านมา
  • The iPhone has Apple’s chips in them and not crappy Intel chips

  • 9:47

    Ovidiu BalibanOvidiu Balibanวันที่ผ่านมา
  • Thats why a used Macbook pro is the best buy. Its great as a laptop for laptop things and if you need to render or game, start your destkop. You can hook up both to the same peri.

    cassius969cassius9692 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Idk man, I think you would get better value and durability from a used Thinkpad, either T or X series

      Lukáš HozdaLukáš Hozdaวันที่ผ่านมา
  • all unlikes are from Apple fans

    Kaktus 1414Kaktus 14142 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Stop calling windows computers PC's, aren't they all potentially for personal use? And what are we supposed to call Linux machines? Penguins?

    ansarirayyanansarirayyan2 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • As someone who actually designs hardware for a living, Apple do a very good job, but they drop the ball from time to time (like we all do). If you chose wisely you can get performing machines that stay performant for a long time. My 2010 macbook pro is still in use, and still better than some systems sold today. My 2015 has been pretty much always on since the day of purchase, and is still rock solid. One of the big reasons for me to keep using macbooks (alongside my other pcs) is that Apple nails the little details that make your life easier. The custom battery packs and chargers that Apple use are unrivaled. Most competitors either outsource or use canned type solutions that end up with heavy reduction in battery life or needing a full replacement. You might have a different opinion, but for me having a laptop with a CPU that *never* has to throttle, is an indication that the thermal solution is actually oversized, and I’m carrying way to much weight. On a Desktop? Yeah, keep your dies cool, but if I have pack it in a bag, you better have a good reason for the weight you are adding.

    Xavi OndoñoXavi Ondoño2 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Agree with this 100%. I use all kinds of machines including gaming laptops that kick on their wind tunnels for menial tasks - though often this is due to poor thermal design. I frequently run into bad thermals across all makes and models on the laptop side. Dell, Razer, HP, etc. MSI has done well on their newest models. The point about batteries is correct. Most PC laptops use some off the shelf parts somewhere and frequently compromise on the battery packs. These parts compromise the overall design of the laptop because the arrangement of the parts is often no optimal because the parts were not engineered for that specific machine but were instead built for an entire line so they could be easily swapped out to a large number of different machines.

      Jeff RickelJeff Rickelวันที่ผ่านมา
  • Does this problem ocurr with the Ipad Pro 2018?

    Albert Grimalt OliverAlbert Grimalt Oliver2 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Because people are more attached to their smartphone than a laptop, and lets face it, your smartphone can do anything your laptop can.

    Thomas NeedThomas Need3 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • No it cannot.

      ᗰᗗᔜᔛᓵᘻᓍᗰᗗᔜᔛᓵᘻᓍ3 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Good products last longer, less likely to have the need to replace the item sooner. Crappy made products fail quickly, so you need to replace to item sooner. Apple is more about looks and status than doing a good value product.

    Hugh DonaldsonHugh Donaldson3 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • IPHONE doesnt drop fps or performance when it comes to heat... hell nawhhh, play pubg in a normal cool room and see what happens? It becomes a nightmare during summer if you dont put a fan or turn on ac to play pubg. Shietty apple, i m so done.

    Dai NguyenDai Nguyen3 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I have fun using my Mac and listening to PC users with MASSIVE inferiority complexes whine about Apple.

    WingnutWingnut3 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • In my opinion Apple makes it’s own processor for iOS but for MacBooks they use Intel which isn’t in house built. That’s why

    fetak12xxxfetak12xxx4 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I'm sure they did market testing and people "don't like it when the fans get loud".

    sean nobodysean nobody4 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • How much money and time should they commit to develop its own PC processors as they did for their phones ? This could really allow Apple offer beatiful laptops as they are but with real performance, not gimmick as today. I use Android and Windows PCs

    Carlos AlvarezCarlos Alvarez4 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Difference in philosophy is in my guess - THEY DESIGNED THE CHIP for the iPhone to fit it's design. They didn't design the intel CPU. If you look at it from that POV the Apple ARM macbook pro is not as much a horror scenario than it would otherwise be - not a fan to be clear I want to be able to run linux on everything I buy ;)

    jhkcreatesjhkcreates4 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • This is very interesting, but what exactly do you mean by a PC? Apple is one manufacturer of Apple machines, but there are many PC manufacturers and the difference is the software. So, I am not sure what you are comparing? Also, with Apple care, you have a three year machine. In our office, we always replaced our PCs every three years anyway because the technology changed so much.

    Joey ThomasJoey Thomas4 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • meh, apple is shit as it always has been

    Jacob P. SmithJacob P. Smith4 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Any improvement in 2019 pro?

    Gurpreet SinghGurpreet Singh4 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I agree. The reason is because its software. macOS seems like an operating system designed for SSDs only. It's unusable when you have traditional HDD. While you can run Windows with HDD, just a tad slower.

    Charka123Charka1234 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • @Charka123 Windows search and Superfetch kept my drive at 100% in iddle

      Xavi OndoñoXavi Ondoñoวันที่ผ่านมา
    • @Xavi Ondoño Again, HDD on any operating system is slow. But HDD on Windows is faster compared to macOS on HDD. All my school computers have HDD and they work just fine.

    • Michel Antunes Yes I do. It’s slow yes, but compare to macOS on HDD, it’s much faster.

      Charka123Charka1232 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • I was given a crappy laptop with a slow hdd and windows 10 at work. I ended up upgrading myself that fucker to an ssd because it was impossible to get anything done.

      Xavi OndoñoXavi Ondoño2 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • did you ever run win10 on hdd?? slow as f**K, barely usable

      Michel AntunesMichel Antunes3 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • My laptop sure does get hot when doing my research ;)

    FramelesslyFramelessly4 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • It just about covers my apple experience. Had nothing but issues with the iMac I used to own. Within the 3 years of apple care coverage, I had it repaired 2 times, and 3 months after apple care ran out... It was done. And that was a specced out, best I could get at the time iMac... However my iPhones I love, and I would never trade those in with anything else. Cuz those just, work...

    Sasia BjørneboSasia Bjørnebo5 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • "You simply can't avoid the laws of Physics." period.

    Cesar Rodríguez La SorteCesar Rodríguez La Sorte5 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • PC guy

    Alvin OngAlvin Ong5 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Falsehoods! Macs rule! They last for a decade before slowing down to being my experience. Can you see a Windows PC lasting 10 years? NO

    Stacey AlexandriaStacey Alexandria5 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • @Charka123 iMac lasted me 10 years...ran all the way up to High Sierra. It became slow and lagged terribly. Replaced it with a Mac mini that's blazing fast.

      Stacey AlexandriaStacey Alexandria4 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Mac usually last 3-5 years. 10 years? That's a joke, try to update the system and try again. Also Windows PC can last 10 years. I have an laptop that last 11 years(2003-2014).

      Charka123Charka1234 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • 7:26 Polyrhythmic crickets!

    InventorZahran 327InventorZahran 3275 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • The only reason I would buy a macbook is because of the software that is only available for macs.

    Jason TruterJason Truter5 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • A fair and decent reason.

      GLO-TUBEGLO-TUBE3 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • It's because they're not RGB.

    Angel GabeAngel Gabe5 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Apple Care only lasts 1 Year 😂

    theMekaniktheMekanik5 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Apple still hasn’t Put USB-C Charging in their Phones 😂😂😂

    theMekaniktheMekanik5 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • @theMekanik they will eventually be put in their's already starting

    • fadetoblack someone need to kick them in the nuts 🥜

    • Of course not, how would they sell overpriced lightning cables then?

      fadetoblackfadetoblack2 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • That’s iJustin Book😬 01:09

    Pradumna V SarafPradumna V Saraf6 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • 6:52 eeeeeeeeeeehhhh... No. You still can actually Linus... We both know you can...

    John doeJohn doe6 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Yeah they overheat, but better than having to pay $100 for an upgrade to an OS that spies on you and is worse than win7. Respect to microsoft tho, gaming on windows is 🤤🤤🤤

    Brother OOFSAUCEBrother OOFSAUCE6 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Upgrading to Windows 10 is free. I did it two weeks ago from Windows 7.

      BoHjalmarGamesBoHjalmarGames6 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Macs are faster than PC

    Richard the Wolf SchleichRichard the Wolf Schleich6 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • @BoHjalmarGames I think it just depends on the computer :) We just had a cheap windows laptop, then got an expensive mac. PC's do have better specs than a maxed iMac pro. So, yes, you're right :)

      Richard the Wolf SchleichRichard the Wolf Schleich5 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • @Richard the Wolf Schleich It is very much up to what you pay. My point is that you can get more performance out of a PC and that you get better performance for less money. If you don't do heavy work or game, the only big changer after an ok build is an SSD. If you have an older computer, a cheap laptop or a normal desktop, it's probably a slower HDD. I personally switched from an old laptop to a new expensive Mac and thought that it was much faster, that was until I started using it for more things than internet browsing. Then I switched to a new PC a couple years later and it felt the same outside of heavy loads.

      BoHjalmarGamesBoHjalmarGames5 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • @BoHjalmarGames True I guess, I probably thought that cause I have a mac and a pc and the mac is WAY faster. :) No offense taken

      Richard the Wolf SchleichRichard the Wolf Schleich6 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • @Richard the Wolf Schleich This is not agreeing or disagreeing, this is facts. They reach higher temperatures, their top CPU is only very high-end and the top GPU is not even close to an RTX 2080 Ti. They also don't have any overclocking support.

      BoHjalmarGamesBoHjalmarGames6 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • @BoHjalmarGames I very much disagree

      Richard the Wolf SchleichRichard the Wolf Schleich6 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I've never bought a Mac, or iOS device for that matter, because of _"Looks or Status Symbol"._ I've been working professionally with Macs and Windows boxes since 1991. I currently work in the field of Mac security. Please look elsewhere for why people prefer Apple gear. The meme of _'I'm an Apple fan, so I buy what's flash and fashion'_ is as superficial as the attempt to paint Apple users as superficial. Instead, let me offer one _actual_ perspective of 'Why Apple?', among many: CNN Q: _"What's your computer setup today?"_ Frederick Brooks, author of 'The Mythical Man Month' A: _"I happily use a Macintosh. It's not been equalled for ease of use, and I want my computer to be a tool, not a challenge."_

    Derek CurrieDerek Currie7 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • And I don't care about performance if it works and feels and looks nice I am happy.

    Labs MicroLabs Micro7 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • @Wongseifu548 No.

      Labs MicroLabs Micro6 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • @Labs Micro macs are for entitles idiots

      Wongseifu548Wongseifu5486 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • @Wongseifu548 And they are for peasants.

      Labs MicroLabs Micro6 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • ​@Wongseifu548 Because they have no design and are trash why you would you buy a laptop that is made of plastic...

      Labs MicroLabs Micro6 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • The reason, i believe, for the poor laptop performance is because most users (90%+) going for apple products are not tech savvy, and as Linus says, are more concerned about looks and the status of having a mac book. So if it works and they can clearly get away with it, why would they change it? I will generalise here - most apple users/lovers are idiots.

    ReZReZ7 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Exactly

      Wongseifu548Wongseifu5486 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Macs are meant for edditing or software shit or whatever macs arnt designed or wernt designed for games...its like a swiss army knife but now there a not so swiss army knife and you can get the whole knife for downloadable content for sale...

    bigdicknigga White facebigdicknigga White face7 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • You have no idea what you’re talking about 😡

    Jeremy DeanJeremy Dean7 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Never liked Apples product, will never buy an Apple product...pc wise.

    reempire888reempire8887 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Lalalalalalala I can't hear you lalalala have you seen the new iPhone leaks?

      Totally Not WoojinTotally Not Woojin23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
    • not even an iPhone? because android suck balls

      Lalalalalalala I can't hear you lalalalaLalalalalalala I can't hear you lalalala2 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • The last point about Macbook vs Iphone was on the target man...All my Macbook versions did not last more than 1 year. However, my iphone 6 still going strong. They just want you to buy their 2 year warranty

    Vanan NavarasanVanan Navarasan8 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • chidorirasenganz typo edited. Thanks

      Vanan NavarasanVanan Navarasan7 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Vanan Navarasan AppleCare only lasts for 2 years

      chidorirasenganzchidorirasenganz7 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • No Linus it's not the's the damn fine OS! I don't care about the looks really...that OS is just so much better than windows for the average user / creative professionals

    David KaufmannDavid Kaufmann8 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • lol wait your serious let me laugh louder LOL. Mac OS is a different expierence thats for sure but better thats funny

      Wongseifu548Wongseifu5486 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • and for those that are tech-illiterate that don't want to waste time on bugs

      Justin ZeroJustin Zero7 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Great video, been on my MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012) , all these years, but it can't play any games, looking forward to buying a gaming laptop.

    Jason ButtonJason Button8 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Also on MacBook Pro Mid 2012, never got the Retina though because I knew Apple's tech wasn't ready. Get 3rd Party fan controllers. Max them out when gaming and you get reasonable performance.

      elus89elus895 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • If you have not bought one buy the asus rog zepherus g

      Wongseifu548Wongseifu5486 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Buy the new helios 300

      Anurag AnandAnurag Anand8 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • How can people think "Macs are better designed" when some Macs have actually destroyed themselves from their poorly designed heat dissipation?

    Luke BeauchampLuke Beauchamp8 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Easy most people are ignorant

      Wongseifu548Wongseifu5486 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Hey Guys, I'm really curious about which laptop alternative to a Macbook Pro 2017 does not have this "thermal throttling" issue? I can't use a Desktop I need to move around pretty often and travel with my Laptop all the time, so a Desktop is not a good fit for me

    Carlos ContrerasCarlos Contreras9 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • The answer to 9:45. Their selling point is MacOS. Sure enough you have proven time and time again that it costs similar to build a windows machine specked similar to a Mac. But that's only true in so many countries. For where I live, a Mac is so fucking expensive that a news paper once wrote an article that it's cheaper for us to get to hong kong, buy our apple product, and get back to India. This is also true in many countries. Why does this matter? Well, these nations are huge consumers of electronics. I don't know the exact stats, but I'm willing to bet India consumes more electronics than the entire North America. So the point is, it is far cheaper for us to build a Windows machine with similar specs to a Mac. Meaning, with the same money, we can build a much, i mean insanely more powerful Windows Machine. Hence, the only argument for someone who buys apple in 2019 in countries like ours, is the OS. But wait, have you seen how apple has dropped sales in these countries? Because people have become more spec savvy. So looking at this, what do we understand? If apple were to sell 2 different models of Macbook Pros with an i5 that doesn't throttle and an i9 that does, giving similar performance on both the machines, which one would they be able to charge more for? Obviously the i9 one. Remember, people here are spec savvy, not tech savvy. Also, the price difference is about 40% between these nations and the US or American continents in general. So if apple can sell an i9 Macbook pro at $X in the US, it can also easily sell an i9 Macbook pro at $X+40% to someone who still thinks macOS is better in India. Because as mentioned above, hardware wise, it is stupid in these nations to get a Macbook. So to keep fooling the spec savvy people, and keeping the argument of MacOS vs Windows in their favor, apple is wiser to make an i9 throlling machine rather than an i5 non throttling one which delivers similar performance. Sure it does cost apple at least something extra to include an i9 instead of an i5. But is that amount enough to overthrow the profit they make by selling these machines at 40% extra to such massive populations?

    Sarvesh ParakhSarvesh Parakh9 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Well apple iMac r way better so chill

    Heinź MinñHeinź Minñ9 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • ....they're [Apple] addressing this issue by moving over to the ARM chips, so I hear. So what is in the iPad an phone, once it's developed to a higher spec, will come to the other products. Does anybody else have any more news on this?

    Nicholas KarfootNicholas Karfoot9 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Apple sucks , I have a hard enough time dealing with there phones no way id use there computer.

    SilentGhillySilentGhilly9 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • The iphone isn't even better in terms of performance throttling because they software throttle their phones after several years in order to "protect the battery".

    Deb64Deb649 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • that's a working mac not a gaming one idiot people theses days

    game rulergame ruler9 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Hackintosh_KINGS!!!

    THE SPARTANTHE SPARTAN9 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • The Best *MacCook Pro* Ever Made.

    aiomixaiomix9 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Owned every Apple Mac model starting with 512e, never found a PC that worked, not to mention was faster. You got a lot to learn. Oh, by the way the 512e still works.

    William InbodyWilliam Inbody9 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Apple for baby boys but PC for men

    Muhammad AbdullahMuhammad Abdullah9 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • how come you dont mention privacy as a selling point to macs in any videos ? all you say is for the status symbol and try and inflict your negative view on your master race followers

    CruxCrux9 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • How dare he! People should only have negative views on the PC.

      Luke BeauchampLuke Beauchamp8 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • So what you are saying is the problem is Intel? Well, Apple are ditching them. So let’s see what happens :-)

    DCmediaUKfilmDCmediaUKfilm9 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Going ARM will make porting much harder. I especially expect many games to not be ported; it would just cost way too much. Problem more likely is Apple and their thermals holding back Intel.

      BoHjalmarGamesBoHjalmarGames6 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Thanks for the reply - and the insult, which is totally uncalled for. I was merely trying to work out where the issue is. Hence my question. So thank you once again and goodbye.

      DCmediaUKfilmDCmediaUKfilm7 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Mac still exists? Also All in Ones are shit

    DolphinboiDolphinboi10 วันที่ผ่านมา
Macs are SLOWER than PCs. Here’s why.