Joker Director Finally Explains That Last Crucial Scene

Arthur Fleck's biggest joke just might be the one he pulled on you. Joker director Todd Phillips recently made a few very interesting comments to the Los Angeles Times about the final scene of the movie comments that imply a bizarre truth about the story being presented. In case that's not warning enough, be advised that major spoilers for Joker lie ahead.
Joaquin Phoenix's Arthur is depicted early and often as having a tenuous grip on reality. The film eventually lets on that it's not always clear which events are fantasy and which are reality not to the audience, and presumably not to Arthur.
At the end, Arthur is seen with his psychiatrist in Arkham State Hospital after he has apparently killed his mother, incited a riot, shot Murray Franklin on live television, and escaped from police custody with the help of his clown-masked followers. As the shrink attempts to question him, Arthur simply laughs, telling her that she wouldn't get the joke. According to Phillips, it's this particular laugh that might hold a clue about the true nature of the story that just unfolded. He explained,
"That laugh in that scene is really the only time he laughs genuinely. There are different laughs in the movie. There is the laugh from Arthur's affliction and then there is his fake laugh when he's trying to be 'one of the people,' which is my favorite laugh. But at the end, when he's in the room at Arkham State Hospital, that's his only genuine laugh in the movie."
Why is that, exactly? Well, perhaps because in the end, the joke is on us, the audience. Phillips has said that one of the main influences on his film was The Killing Joke, the acclaimed 1988 graphic novel in which the Joker says that if he must have a past, he, quote, "[prefers] it to be multiple choice." The director made a direct allusion to this dialogue in suggesting that as many fans have speculated Arthur Fleck might not necessarily be who we think he is. Phillips said,
"There are lots of ways you could look at this movie. You could look at it and go, 'This is just one of his multiple-choice stories. None of it happened.' I don't want to say what it is. But a lot of people I've shown it to have said, 'Oh, I get it he's just made up a story. The whole movie is the joke. It's this thing this guy in Arkham Asylum concocted. He might not even be the Joker.'"
Phillips went on to state outright that the man who will become Batman's nemesis may simply be in the background somewhere, watching all of these events play out. He said,
"Maybe Joaquin's character inspired the Joker. You don't really know. His last line in the movie is, 'You wouldn't get it.' There's a lot going on in there that's interesting."
Phoenix himself also explained that Joker can be seen not so much as a straightforward narrative, but as a series of suggestions. Keep watching the video to see that the Joker director finally explains that last crucial scene!
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  • How much of Joker do you think really happened in the movie? Which parts?

    LooperLooper7 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • All the time he spent with that girl from his apt building never happened because she asks if his name was Arthur later in the movie after he killed his mother as if they never even met.

      Tamia MarieTamia Marie3 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • I think the joke is that the Joker created the Batman.He set Gotham in chaos by which Bruce lost his parents.Joker was the creator and motivation for Batman to fight against the dark side of Gotham.And that was the joke he couldnt stop laughing.

      aj 007aj 00718 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Joseph Bernard nope. Overanalysis paralysis. Wrong. He read batman and thinks he is the joker, but kills the psych, and dances like in his 'delusion' . Riiight

      Dantes230Dantes2303 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • AEWFans he is in the asylum. They WASH inmates ofc his hair isn t green and no mask. This is an R rates movie what are kids doing here?

      Dantes230Dantes2303 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • All. You are wrong, this video is wrong. He is the joker, they never said he is not. He kills the psych at the end ( bloody footprints ) .. same dance.. it's real. He is the joker.

      Dantes230Dantes2303 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • This pretentious film maker takes himself too seriously. Just end the movie and stop trying to be a mysterious artist. Ffs 🙄

    Shawn SmithShawn Smith6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
  • Maybe it all started with Arthur, he became the Joker, then he told the story to someone else. Who then became the 2nd Joker. And it goes on and on. Because we know that there were many other clown followers. That could explain why the Joker has lived for so many years. And why he isn't actually dead in some versions. Maybe yeah the Joker did die, and then came back but wasn't the same one. It could be the same with other villains or Batman. See?

    AShrimpyCuphead 12AShrimpyCuphead 1211 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • So, joker is not the joker or one of many possible jokers in the real jokers' mind? Great.

    Sudhir RaghuSudhir Raghu15 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • If Arthur Fleck isn't the Joker but the man who inspired him, it makes him even more badass !

    KaraktaKarakta18 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Great.

    Arnold StollarArnold Stollar21 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Kool

    Arnold StollarArnold Stollar21 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Joker>Endgame

    I need a hug plzI need a hug plz22 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Besides if everything was a delusuion then how would Arthur imagine his relationship with Sophie. That would mean he was seeing a delusion in a delusion which is not possible.

    Aadinarayan RAadinarayan R28 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I would like to think that he just was taken to the asylum were he was being interrogated and the he escaped and continues as the joker

    Aadinarayan RAadinarayan R28 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • OK: so it seems no one noticed: after Arthur was cut off on the video, we see a clip of all the news reporters and videos, and in the corner, we see Arthurs full video of where he says something and gets taken down by the cops. Now his voice was drowned out by the other televisions, but if you read his lips and but together what he says: He says "Gothom, we stand up, there will never be a hero stronger to take down----, if we are up" roughly a translation. So he is speaking about no hero could stand up. This later causes Bruce to become Batman, and he will stand up to Arthur as the Joker.

    MariannaMariannaหลายเดือนก่อน
  • Again, again and AGAIN (siiigh): this movie would have been better without the link to the whole Batman story. All ‘Wayne scenes’ are weak. The character at the end of the movie is most definitely NOT The Joker

    Milton77Milton77หลายเดือนก่อน
  • So I'm guessing hes laughing at the end because he knows that bruce wayne is an orphan just like him now.

    conman20000conman20000หลายเดือนก่อน
  • If you don't get this movie or it's ending you need to go to Film School. This plot was crisp and to the point. Clear & Concise.

    Johnny McLindenJohnny McLindenหลายเดือนก่อน
  • I hear people saying that joker is better than ENDGAME. Well Endgame is the culmination of a saga, it's a visual feast, greater than cinema Joker is the best example of true cinema!!

    Creativity06Creativity06หลายเดือนก่อน
  • It was obvious.. none of it happened. That was my exact thought when the movie ended. It was a movie about mental illness not about the joker at all.

    Jay BrooksJay Brooks2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I think he's just being pretentious...trying to present a deepness to a film that, while entertaining and thought provoking, is still based on a comic book character. It definitely exceeded my expectations, but hearing all the angsty millenial males worship Joker on the internet as if he really shot dinero in the 🤬 head on live tv (which by the way actually proves that there are a lot of psychopaths in this world) kind of turned me off to it.

    Neutral ArtistNeutral Artist2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • It makes so much sense that he’s not the real joker. But inspired the one to become

    Jorge GJorge G2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • the biggest joke is JOAQUIN PHOENIX acting career

    Dennis the MenaceDennis the Menace2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Possible the joker actually killed the waynes

    Maxi CoolMaxi Cool2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Exactly ...I knew it.....how is it possible the that joker goes to arkham assyulmn when he has a massive clown army....as phonexis laughter at the end is different from the other laughter in his fantasy The true meaning is that life is a joke As in life nothing really matters

    Maxi CoolMaxi Cool2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I’de like to believe that this all actually happened or it’s just the Joker laughing about another origin story he thought up of.

    Mr. DivergentMr. Divergent2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Every Villian is a Hero of his own story.

    Bounty HunterBounty Hunter2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • A "Happy" moment was when Arthur kisses Gary on his head . The only moment in the movie that made us glad and relieved at the same time , not having a clue that Gary existed only in Arthur's mind ! The Killing J😨ke imo .

    AwasAwas2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • What if Arthur is Joker's father

    TrianglareTrianglare2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • If you've understood me. You have misunderstood me.

    Psych SlowPsych Slow2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • The entire film happened as it was portrayed. The final scene simply showed him after he was caught. The 3rd laugh, the real and last one signified his final exceptence of madness and the joke being on humanity in what it had created. All the other ideas and topics it could be is simply marketting in my opinion. The shrink at the end even resembles the shrink in the beginning to keep discussion flowing. I don't buy the theories that often follow these films which are planted to keep voices chattering. If it turns out that a quality film, with a quality story and quality acting is defined by an odd picular injected ending, it will destory the entire process of the film and will actually then become another comic. Just my opinion🙂 but the film explains it's reality in one simple scene and that's Bruce waynes dad and mum are killed in an ally. No other reason to show that other than to identify reality from fiction. Using the same names and city provides to certain well known plots. If the whole story was a madmans ramblings of a made up world, it wouldn't involve a real event we all are accustomed too. Not to mention the fact the imaginary girl was originally not imaginary😉 just my opinion though hahaha great film, i hope they dont mess about with the plot to stagger its appeal.

    funktastic- trials fusionfunktastic- trials fusion2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • i think the good moments in the movie were his dreams and the harsh moments his reality

    Mad9977 ProductionsMad9977 Productions2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I see the “you wouldn’t get it” as Bruce was meant to be Arthur’s half brother and now Arthur orphaned him

    sour_crust -sour_crust -2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • That's one of the things I love most about this movie, and stories of this type - the uncertainty. It does make you a player in the game because you have to come to your own conclusions. It makes the story more immersive.

    Ruby FireflyRuby Firefly2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Here's my take. It did happen. All the killings happened, I should say. The mother, the 'neighbor girlfriend', Robert Deniro, whatshisname who gave him the gun, the therapist at the end. By the end of the movie, some time had passed since he obviously didn't have the green hair anymore. I can't understand why they would have this murderer go to the therapist without a thousand pounds of handcuffs and armed guards around him. Anyway, I think the reason he is laughing at the end isn't because the entire movie was just a vision Fleck had....it was because he knew the Gotham clown revolution he inadvertently started caused not only the death of his nemesis Thomas Wayne (And his wife, of course)....but it had transformed his overprivileged son Bruce---Thomas's real son--into an orphan......turning him into exactly what Fleck was. Having the whole movie be a dream doesn't fit if he never met Bruce or never confronted Thomas in the men's room. The reason Fleck said, "You wouldn't get it." is because the therapist wouldn't understand the symbolism of transforming Bruce to himself when he was the same age.

    Bryce TharpBryce Tharp2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • " I would rather wonder than get all the answers.... " 😅😅😅

    S BS B3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • This movie is an Art, and real art takes time to be grasped by the viewers.

    S BS B3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I still like to believe he won the love of the rioters. The way they all cheered for him tore me up lol

    henry evanshenry evans3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I think it’s dumb when their like well it might not even be real or he might not even be so and so like can we just have a movie where someone is actually who we think we are damn I’m to stupid for the other shit

    Lana KhaderLana Khader3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • The joke’s on him as I will never see another of his films.

    MaitriMaitri3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Joker created batman so lets get to filming now we got a good batman story now

    James JonesJames Jones3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I really, really, really, really hope they don’t make that story a depiction of delusion or something just made up by Arthur. I hope even more, Arthur becomes the real Joker that antagonizes Batman. I’ll be quite disappointed if that’s not the case.

    AirehcazAirehcaz3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • A bit late but, there is too much order in character development for this to be a mere lunatic's fantasy.

    KhataarFelMataarKhataarFelMataar3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I think he is The Joker. The scene at the end perhaps reveals that he has been telling this story to the psychiatrist- and it may or not be completely true - because that's what The Joker would do, as he prefers his past to be multiple choice. Plus, the character is better with some mystery.

    Name_Name_3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • He is the joker, they never said he is not. He kills the psych at the end ( bloody footprints ) .. same dance.. it's real. He is the joker.

    Dantes230Dantes2303 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • He laughs because of the story, which is true, its conclusion, or the fact that he can and does escape at his whim killing the psychiatrist in the process

    Dantes230Dantes2303 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I love how DC went for a more non-action kind of movie unlike *cough* marvel *cough. Joker is definitely one of the best movies of 2019.

    PingasPingas3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • This is exactly why there should be no sequel! It let it up to the viewers interpretation and there's no right or wrong answer. What ever theory you want to believe is as possible as any other. I thought it was perfect just as is.

    GrarderGrarder3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Maybe the joker will defeat Superman next time with the help of hobbits so then Star Wars wouldn’t start beating pikachu Fakts

    Excess TrianglesExcess Triangles3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • He really had the last laugh

    Zach DimickZach Dimick3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Is it wrong that I want to sleep with joker 🙄

    bb3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I will never understand why these things need to be explained. Is the general public becoming dumber or what!?!

    donniecatalanodonniecatalano3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I'm so confused,besides this origin,the only origin we have on Joker is him falling into some goo-like unknown substance and he crawls out laughing...And Arthur influenced his style???A style that is potentially all in his head???Then there's an even more bizarre origin of the real "comic book"Joker who actually knows he's in a comic book and that becomes the reason he goes madly insane🤦🏿‍♂️idk...

    Da Main ManeDa Main Mane3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • The joke is that they smuggled in an arthouse film right under the noses of the franchise junkies.

    Anon BAnon B3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • “which is my favorite laugh” GIRL SAME- first time I heard that high pitched ring of a laugh I lost it

    Please HelpPlease Help3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • How could the joker be an adult when Bruce was a kid and not be old af by the time Bruce is Batman?

    Clayton LClayton L3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • That character that followed the Waynes into the ally becomes the Joker. So Arthur created/inspired/motivated the Joker.

    Jamie EarlyJamie Early3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • A dread pirate Roberts situation.

    Andrew TempalskiAndrew Tempalski3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • If they did all this, just to show some other person being influenced by JOKERS actions....to become the 'next' JOKER....I am out. That would be the best way for DC to lose their fan base and destroy this incredible foundation of a story they have started. Marvel; look out!

    Domenic TorretoDomenic Torreto3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I think it could be that Arthur just wanted a father like Thomas Wayne, just like he fantasizes about Murray saying nice things about him in the beginning. But it is really open to interpretation. A true classic that leaves us all guessing. If Phoenix doesn’t win an Oscar it would be a travesty.

    KimchicrackerKimchicracker3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • The first joke he told on murrays stage "knock, knock - its the police-" shows you how dark jokers sense of humour is. So why would he laugh at the end of the movie, and why would it cut to Thomas Waynes death? My theory is that Waynes death is funny to Joker. He hated Wayne for telling him he was adopted and that his mother was a liar and he probably wanted to kill him regardless of whether it was the truth or not. But he didn't, instead someone else who looked like him killed Wayne AND said the same line Joker said to Murray before he killed him on stage. So people were going to believe it WAS him who murdered Wayne. AND the real killer left his son, Bruce Wayne alive - Wayne said he would kill joker if he touched his son. And Bruce ends up an orphan, possibly even adopted just like the joker. It is all ironically dark and twisted. I think if he found out the way Wayne died, it would be hilarious to the joker. And no I don't think he is the real joker, but I do think he was a real character in Gotham and did really influence events. That's my 2 cents (LOL)

    sksigilsksigil3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • How does the age gap work If he’s the Joker who becomes Batman’s nemesis?

    Brett HaynesBrett Haynes3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • No shit...there's scene when he goes to the mental hospital and asks how someone ends up here...having already been there...no one picked up on this ?

    Chris DevlinChris Devlin3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I really enjoyed this movie but anytime that there is a surreal moment or subtlety its undermined by treating the audience like they aren't getting the disingenuous nature of Arthur's psyche and the ending too felt like beating a dead horse and a cop out of making an actual ending in my opinion it would've been much more impactful to just end it with him dancing on the car.

    timothy faintimothy fain3 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • Also if you didnt come to the conclusion that Arthur's an unreliable narrator and that he might not be the joker by yourself you are kind of a dum-dum

      timothy faintimothy fain3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • If this ain't the start of a new universe I'm gonna be really pissed off cause he's my favorite joker

    deadblood 4115deadblood 41154 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • @Gotham Protector yyaaaaaaayyy 😁

      deadblood 4115deadblood 41154 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • The sequel will definitely be coming.

      Gotham ProtectorGotham Protector4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • The riots and him shooting Murray are real, when he laughs in the audience of the stand up show it was fantasy as no one called him out. When he was on live TV many people reacted negatively, when he was in the back of the cruiser the cops reacted negatively. Some parts are fantasy but the riots and him killing Murray were not.

    NOT OmarNOT Omar4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Kill The Rich! Childhood is idealizing Batman, Adulthood is when you realize that the Joker makes more sense! Especially in this movie that shows how rich greedy capitalists are un compassionate assholes!

    Ramp SharkRamp Shark4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I think he's just hyping it up to make the movie more interesting.

    Sonically SoundSonically Sound4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • A lot of people seem to be pissed off with the “it never happened” ending, but the point that Phillips has constantly reiterated is that this ending is up to interpretation. He never said “yeah, none of it happened,” he just said that he’s heard other people say that. So if you think that everything shown truly happened, then, for all intended purposes, it all happened.

    FousrinFousrin4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I think it's all real, except for the relationship with the girl. Also, I think the laugh at the end is genuine because he really does find what happened to him funny. + The thing about there not being a sequel where he fights Batman is probably because Bruce looks around 10 years old at most here, meaning atleast 10 years for Batman to even exist.

    Critical Sh!t EntertainmentCritical Sh!t Entertainment4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Great 👍🏿 movie.

    lastpmelastpme4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • just brilliant!!!!

    Jeri LynJeri Lyn4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • For all the idiots saying this isn't a DC Films movie are morons. It was Produced by DC Films. Google it

    Matt AlbertMatt Albert4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I dont get why people have such a hard time understanding different interpretations. Why are folk so obsessed with "the real joker?" So obsessed with black and white, batman v joker blandness...

    Gary MGary M4 หลายเดือนก่อน
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