Film Theory: The Joker Is Not Real (Joker 2019 Spoiler Free)

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This year we are getting a seemingly brand new take on the classic Batman villain, the Joker. This version stars Joaquin Phoenix as a failed comedian named Arthur Fleck - a new name for the old character. People are saying it's a whole new origin story for the Joker and I think that's true... but maybe not in the way most people are thinking. I think this Joker is not actually REAL! What do I mean? You're about to find out!
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Writer: Matthew Patrick and Zach Stewart
Editors: Dan "Cybert" Seibert, BanditRants, and Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick
Assistant Editor: AlyssaBeCrazy
Sound Editor: Yosi Berman



  • Yo mat pat while I watch your Joker theories which one of those three kind of jokers do you think they are if you think that I’m wrong it’s OK PS I really like your videos and you are really dramatic and I love it

    Kira WesterhausenKira Westerhausen4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
  • Ok you just got it aaaaaaalll wrong o0.

    smiley eymosmiley eymo5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
  • I’m late but thanks for making this video MatPat. I had an assignment at university where I had to examine a film and King of Comedy was one of the choices I could pick from. This video really helped me get to know this film and link it to Joker and I got a higher grade as a result!

    Lily QuinnLily Quinn6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
  • Schizophrenics are not prone to violence. Also he was adopted with plenty of reason to believe that scene was real. Though I don't think pinning down his mental illness has any utility. Also, I dont think he does anything to impress the girl. Like what would he do? Go on the Murray show? There was precedential motivation for that already. Also he doesnt seem particularly paranoid, so it's unclear why exactly all the clown things would be a paranoid delusion about "the man." I think it's actually somewhat more likely that the clown symbol may have spring boarded from reports of his murdering but, as things often do, especially when the media gets involved, the symbol took on its own meaning, which is why he has to dis-identify himself with that meaning for the audiences watching him on Murray. If it were one of his grandiose delusions (and I don't believe grandiosity is a typical schizophrenic delusion, but I could be wrong), then he wouldn't do that whether in fantasy or otherwise. In the same vein, I don't think he ever saw himself as a leader of a rebellion until the end, and even then "leader" is a generous reading. Finally, the final words form the trailer are the penultimate signifier that arthur is the (prosocial) persona (as a function of society, which is what is meant by what he writes in his notebook) and the Joker is the actual person.

    Michael IoffeMichael Ioffe3 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Everything starts in your head. Base on how you thing and how you were programed from birth to now is how you will see this movie. Everyone suffering from mental illness so only a only a few can see the truth without the mind control. The life you are living now is base on how you think so when you think someone else is crazy take a close look at self. Ask yourself this why did I like movie?

    DCMD RDDCMD RD3 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Hey! Good video. Hereditary part is wrong. He's adopted.

    Four㐅Four㐅4 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • heath leadger 💘

    Rizky pitra ananda RiskiRizky pitra ananda Riski4 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Check out the fun game about the Joker -

    Xenia ValenurovaXenia Valenurova5 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Ok, so Arthur Fleck has Schizophrenia? Then how do you explain the random laughing outbursts? That is not a symptom of schizophrenia.

    Melissa MinervaMelissa Minerva5 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Iron man could have paid thanos to go away

    Dagan klieverDagan kliever5 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I live for “ aaaaaand cut.” Glad that’s back. Don’t ever cut my cut again.

    Aon ArtsAon Arts5 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • What movie is at 1:53 ?

    glffcknwngglffcknwng6 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • You got it right.... kinda

    Mikey SheepMikey Sheep6 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Never mind you are completely correct

      Mikey SheepMikey Sheep6 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • The girl that he loved never was there it is in his mind

    Daisy hates You216Daisy hates You2166 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Suicide Squad: *gives us new joker* Film theory: Thats not Joker. Joker: *new joker* Film Theory: Thats not joker

    Racist BiscuitRacist Biscuit7 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • this isn't the Joker, as the real Joker was doused in chemicals while BATMAN was chasing him. This is too early.

    Ramsey SchafferRamsey Schaffer7 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Having watched movie now do you realize how far off your theory was?

    Az TheFallenAz TheFallen7 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I don't think anything in the movie happened. But not for the same reason you do. If you read the comics, the Joker is KNOWN for lying about his origin. No one knows how he became the Joker not even his creator doesn't know or at least won't share. He's literally told the same Batman as in. in one cohesive canon, multiple different origin stories. While I did like the movie, I don't think that's any Joker's origin and I don't think we'll find out

    Ocean BlueOcean Blue8 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • awww, is somebody salty because there was no Batman, no superhero battles?

    Joe HadrinJoe Hadrin8 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • So you think they guy just THINKS he's the the Joker? Interesting. But if so, where is the real Joker?

    Jenny clarkJenny clark8 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Who agrees that jokers official name should be John Doe

    Aaron GutierrezAaron Gutierrez8 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I mean, I thought it was pretty clear that the scenes with the woman he was crushing on were delusions. He literally showed up in her apartment and she didn’t know who he was.

    TinyPandaRedTinyPandaRed8 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • So Joker is a rip-off🤔

    Aamir WilsonAamir Wilson8 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • This Joker is not real? It doesn't really mater to me... to me...!!!!!

    Denise Maria BranquinhoDenise Maria Branquinho9 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Missed an opportunity, to show yourself @ the end with Joker make-up :p

    Danny SchoofsDanny Schoofs9 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • This is the joker

    golde nnuggets69 Fgolde nnuggets69 F9 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Skert skert

    RobobunchRobobunch9 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • This movie is giving me a headache now.

    zipzap570zipzap5709 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Can we take a minute to realise just how unfair the Oscars are goin to be next year?...

    Devastation OfMankindDevastation OfMankind10 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I made a good remix on this. Check my channel.

    Bad TherapyBad Therapy10 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • 6:00 you've got to be shitting me. Arthur has 10x better handwriting than me.

    DenerexDenerex11 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • This movie almost made me cry

    Jessica PeltJessica Pelt11 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Spoilers Thomas Wayne was a powerful man. He could've paid or blackmailed people to create the adoption story by altering the files. After Arthur kills his mother, he finds a message from one T.W. on the back of an old photo of her, showing a possible affair. Arthur may well be Batman's half-brother.

    JoãoJoão11 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Ha my mind is blown

    I am a EagleI am a Eagle11 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • So now my bad handwriting is a sign of schizophrenia

    sebastian grutsebastian grut11 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • This was good, but it feels like just trailer speculation. Did you do a follow up after the movie came out?

    Matt StynerMatt Styner11 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Thank you brotha this was great

    Jes RamJes Ram11 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • We call people sick when people aren’t what called normal Remember to put yourself in the place of people you judge Sad😖+😀

    zagros qazyzagros qazy12 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • 6:18 This writing is in Turkish, and I'm also Turkish but I can't even exactly understand every word written here. Btw this writing kinda looks like my hand writing.

    kuroblakkakuroblakka12 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • The only thing that was a illusion was him having a girlfriend

    Wasabi 1Wasabi 112 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • i love film theorists

  • Are you joking? Dum dum ting

    lucifer morningstarlucifer morningstar12 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Super..the crimson bolt seemed to happen all in his head.

    Kenneth TrayerKenneth Trayer13 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Ok all of this from the trailer? *WoW*

    The MoonThe Moon14 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • 15:00 someone legit tell me where that laugh came from, send me a video of it and i'll be playing it on loop for hours

    brainleakbrainleak14 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Watch Joker movie online on TH-vision -

    A VA V14 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Me: do that lil freaky thing I like.. *music plays and joker dances down the stairs*

    Den’s VideosDen’s Videos14 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • So how would joker be a villian or is everything fake bat man superman and super as a whole

    Rian MacfarlaneRian Macfarlane14 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • right on the money matt right off my mind: he never actually dated that single mom, he never got praised by tv host, he didn't do his overthrow gotham thing just yet (the fun starts of course in the batman movies)

    Omniversal VoidOmniversal Void15 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Im still mad that it doesnt reflect the joker from the comics, but I gotta say Joker isnt The Joker, the film is called Joker without the "The", so I guess Its comprehensible that the movie is far away from representing The Joker but more into creating a new character named only Joker xd. And I didnt like the movie anyway, maybe im too old to let go of the original character which is way better and storyline is way better. Since this Joker was like watching a Sundance drama film that tries to explain everything by finding sort of resemblance in our world, rather than a fiction one, like inventing that joker has gone all crazy because of the abusive parent, and that psychology is the way to help him, rather than falling into a chemical barrel xd. Like sure its more logical, but we are not talking about our world, we are in gotham which is a dark city with a dark athmosphere surrounding it with high criminal rates and I think in games this is way better represented, and with the joker doing sadistic jokes, like even in DC universe it has a better dialogue than this film, if they had stuck with the original it would be a great film to the people that actually wants to see the joker in it. I mean even the laugh is off putting doesnt really accomplish anything to me.

    konstanZX2konstanZX215 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • The video barely started and I was ctfu at “this HANDSOME HUNKA HUNKA!”

    Jei FeroJei Fero15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    James burns FisherJames burns Fisher15 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • He went off of the trailers, so the theory won’t be 100% correct. Remember he’s trying to be spoiler free and doesn’t know everything about the movie. Until we get a theory with spoilers of the movie the theory will be inaccurate

    Eggo Waffle HolderEggo Waffle Holder15 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Jonathan kert

    Gaprel GatetGaprel Gatet15 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • He was adopted though so....

    IJ WilliamsIJ Williams16 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • 🤯 spot on Matpat.... spot on brother....✊🏾

    deadfred821deadfred82116 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Yo film theories I love you videos but I don’t agree jokers better than endgame

    Lukenator 99Lukenator 9917 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • first rule of fight club is your not allowed to talk about fight club

    Abuzz singer83Abuzz singer8318 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • 6.18: that part is in turkish

    Erdogan GunerErdogan Guner18 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • fcuk i have same syptoms

    Thecompleted LuigitwatThecompleted Luigitwat18 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • The film reminded me of Randy Stair..

    Thecompleted LuigitwatThecompleted Luigitwat18 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • there's a guy that frequents VRchat, he does an absolutely perfect imitation of Mark Hamill's Joker. Look up Deadcryeye on here.

    Michael MarichMichael Marich18 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Turkish texts on medical records 🇹🇷

    Alp SöylemezAlp Söylemez19 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Oh just wait until he hears about the clocks around the entire movie

    Jerad OliveraJerad Olivera20 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • How’s it hereditary? He’s adopted

    Kr4kenKr4ken20 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • i’m watching this 5 minutes after i finished the movie

    ennysanusii _ennysanusii _21 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Just watch and enjoy the need to study it...

    Marty RalteMarty Ralte21 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • 1:42 um please what are the movies just shown. Like there’s multiple clips, so if you know at least one (except for Logan) that’d be great

    Daniel PatrickDaniel Patrick21 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Thanks

      Daniel PatrickDaniel Patrick21 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • @Daniel Patrick American psycho and shutter island

      jishak kasparovjishak kasparov21 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • What about jeremiah from Gotham?

    Kevin SkaggsKevin Skaggs21 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • spot on mate. cheers.

    Born Justice RuleBorn Justice Rule21 วันที่ผ่านมา
Film Theory: The Joker Is Not Real (Joker 2019 Spoiler Free)