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This year we are getting a seemingly brand new take on the classic Batman villain, the Joker. This version stars Joaquin Phoenix as a failed comedian named Arthur Fleck - a new name for the old character. People are saying it's a whole new origin story for the Joker and I think that's true... but maybe not in the way most people are thinking. I think this Joker is not actually REAL! What do I mean? You're about to find out!
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Writer: Matthew Patrick and Zach Stewart
Editors: Dan "Cybert" Seibert, BanditRants, and Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick
Assistant Editor: AlyssaBeCrazy
Sound Editor: Yosi Berman
Sources:
www.nme.com/news/film/joker-director-says-viewers-will-mad-new-film-strays-completely-comic-book-2525698
www.nme.com/news/film/marc-maron-tells-us-working-joaquin-phoenixs-upcoming-joker-origin-movie-2466904
www.schizophrenia.com/earlysigns.htm#
www.sciencealert.com/schizophrenia-is-80-genetic-according-to-this-massive-study-on-twins
sci-hub.tw/onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1556-4029.12858
www.indiewire.com/2019/04/robert-de-niro-joker-king-of-comedy-1202055636/
Yo mat pat while I watch your Joker theories which one of those three kind of jokers do you think they are if you think that I’m wrong it’s OK PS I really like your videos and you are really dramatic and I love it
Ok you just got it aaaaaaalll wrong o0.
I’m late but thanks for making this video MatPat. I had an assignment at university where I had to examine a film and King of Comedy was one of the choices I could pick from. This video really helped me get to know this film and link it to Joker and I got a higher grade as a result!
Schizophrenics are not prone to violence. Also he was adopted with plenty of reason to believe that scene was real. Though I don't think pinning down his mental illness has any utility. Also, I dont think he does anything to impress the girl. Like what would he do? Go on the Murray show? There was precedential motivation for that already. Also he doesnt seem particularly paranoid, so it's unclear why exactly all the clown things would be a paranoid delusion about "the man." I think it's actually somewhat more likely that the clown symbol may have spring boarded from reports of his murdering but, as things often do, especially when the media gets involved, the symbol took on its own meaning, which is why he has to dis-identify himself with that meaning for the audiences watching him on Murray. If it were one of his grandiose delusions (and I don't believe grandiosity is a typical schizophrenic delusion, but I could be wrong), then he wouldn't do that whether in fantasy or otherwise. In the same vein, I don't think he ever saw himself as a leader of a rebellion until the end, and even then "leader" is a generous reading. Finally, the final words form the trailer are the penultimate signifier that arthur is the (prosocial) persona (as a function of society, which is what is meant by what he writes in his notebook) and the Joker is the actual person.
Everything starts in your head. Base on how you thing and how you were programed from birth to now is how you will see this movie. Everyone suffering from mental illness so only a only a few can see the truth without the mind control. The life you are living now is base on how you think so when you think someone else is crazy take a close look at self. Ask yourself this why did I like movie?
Hey! Good video. Hereditary part is wrong. He's adopted.
heath leadger 💘
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Ok, so Arthur Fleck has Schizophrenia? Then how do you explain the random laughing outbursts? That is not a symptom of schizophrenia.
Iron man could have paid thanos to go away
I live for “ aaaaaand cut.” Glad that’s back. Don’t ever cut my cut again.
What movie is at 1:53 ?
You got it right.... kinda
Never mind you are completely correct
The girl that he loved never was there it is in his mind
Suicide Squad: *gives us new joker* Film theory: Thats not Joker. Joker: *new joker* Film Theory: Thats not joker
this isn't the Joker, as the real Joker was doused in chemicals while BATMAN was chasing him. This is too early.
Having watched movie now do you realize how far off your theory was?
I don't think anything in the movie happened. But not for the same reason you do. If you read the comics, the Joker is KNOWN for lying about his origin. No one knows how he became the Joker not even his creator doesn't know or at least won't share. He's literally told the same Batman as in. in one cohesive canon, multiple different origin stories. While I did like the movie, I don't think that's any Joker's origin and I don't think we'll find out
awww, is somebody salty because there was no Batman, no superhero battles?
So you think they guy just THINKS he's the the Joker? Interesting. But if so, where is the real Joker?
Who agrees that jokers official name should be John Doe
I mean, I thought it was pretty clear that the scenes with the woman he was crushing on were delusions. He literally showed up in her apartment and she didn’t know who he was.
So Joker is a rip-off🤔
This Joker is not real? It doesn't really mater to me... to me...!!!!!
Missed an opportunity, to show yourself @ the end with Joker make-up :p
This is the joker
Skert skert
This movie is giving me a headache now.
Can we take a minute to realise just how unfair the Oscars are goin to be next year?...
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6:00 you've got to be shitting me. Arthur has 10x better handwriting than me.
This movie almost made me cry
Spoilers Thomas Wayne was a powerful man. He could've paid or blackmailed people to create the adoption story by altering the files. After Arthur kills his mother, he finds a message from one T.W. on the back of an old photo of her, showing a possible affair. Arthur may well be Batman's half-brother.
Ha my mind is blown
So now my bad handwriting is a sign of schizophrenia
This was good, but it feels like just trailer speculation. Did you do a follow up after the movie came out?
Thank you brotha this was great
We call people sick when people aren’t what called normal Remember to put yourself in the place of people you judge Sad😖+😀
6:18 This writing is in Turkish, and I'm also Turkish but I can't even exactly understand every word written here. Btw this writing kinda looks like my hand writing.
The only thing that was a illusion was him having a girlfriend
i love film theorists
Are you joking? Dum dum ting
Super..the crimson bolt seemed to happen all in his head.
Ok all of this from the trailer? *WoW*
15:00 someone legit tell me where that laugh came from, send me a video of it and i'll be playing it on loop for hours
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Me: do that lil freaky thing I like.. *music plays and joker dances down the stairs*
So how would joker be a villian or is everything fake bat man superman and super as a whole
right on the money matt right off my mind: he never actually dated that single mom, he never got praised by tv host, he didn't do his overthrow gotham thing just yet (the fun starts of course in the batman movies)
Im still mad that it doesnt reflect the joker from the comics, but I gotta say Joker isnt The Joker, the film is called Joker without the "The", so I guess Its comprehensible that the movie is far away from representing The Joker but more into creating a new character named only Joker xd. And I didnt like the movie anyway, maybe im too old to let go of the original character which is way better and storyline is way better. Since this Joker was like watching a Sundance drama film that tries to explain everything by finding sort of resemblance in our world, rather than a fiction one, like inventing that joker has gone all crazy because of the abusive parent, and that psychology is the way to help him, rather than falling into a chemical barrel xd. Like sure its more logical, but we are not talking about our world, we are in gotham which is a dark city with a dark athmosphere surrounding it with high criminal rates and I think in games this is way better represented, and with the joker doing sadistic jokes, like even in DC universe it has a better dialogue than this film, if they had stuck with the original it would be a great film to the people that actually wants to see the joker in it. I mean even the laugh is off putting doesnt really accomplish anything to me.
The video barely started and I was ctfu at “this HANDSOME HUNKA HUNKA!”
JOKER IS A REMAKE of KING OF COMEDY !
He went off of the trailers, so the theory won’t be 100% correct. Remember he’s trying to be spoiler free and doesn’t know everything about the movie. Until we get a theory with spoilers of the movie the theory will be inaccurate
Jonathan kert
He was adopted though so....
🤯 spot on Matpat.... spot on brother....✊🏾
Yo film theories I love you videos but I don’t agree jokers better than endgame
first rule of fight club is your not allowed to talk about fight club
6.18: that part is in turkish
fcuk i have same syptoms
The film reminded me of Randy Stair..
there's a guy that frequents VRchat, he does an absolutely perfect imitation of Mark Hamill's Joker. Look up Deadcryeye on here.
Turkish texts on medical records 🇹🇷
Oh just wait until he hears about the clocks around the entire movie
How’s it hereditary? He’s adopted
i’m watching this 5 minutes after i finished the movie
Just watch and enjoy the movies...no need to study it...
1:42 um please what are the movies just shown. Like there’s multiple clips, so if you know at least one (except for Logan) that’d be great
Thanks
@Daniel Patrick American psycho and shutter island
What about jeremiah from Gotham?
spot on mate. cheers.