AMD Ryzen Frequency Scale - Temperature is Important for Ryzen 3000 CPUs

This video looks at AMD frequency and cold scale with full stock settings, using only Precision Boost 2 (NOT the same as PBO) and controlled temperatures.
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In this video, we manually manage temperatures between +84 degrees Celsius and roughly -80 degrees Celsius, showing incremental steps along the way to demonstrate cold scale. The end result is that we can learn how frequency behaves versus temperature on AMD Ryzen 3000 series CPUs, focusing most on the new R9 3900X (but also relevant to the R5 3600 and R7 3700X, etc.). The end result is that better coolers and better airflow cases will improve bottom-line performance, and so should be factored into component selection.
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  • Watch our explanation of AMD's Precision Boost 2 vs. Precision Boost Overdrive here: th-vision.net/detail/%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%AD-B7NzNi1xX_4.html Article: www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3492-ryzen-cpu-thermals-matter-coolers-and-cases

    Gamers NexusGamers Nexusหลายเดือนก่อน
    • So basically it's auto 'overclocking' as long as your thermals are good (like you would make sure if you were manually overclocking) and if not it's doing the best it can with the thermal situation it finds itself in. So instead of just maxing it until it gets too hot and needs to dial it back or do an abrupt shutdown, it scales it's capability with the live real world conditions it's facing. I actually like this, it does the best it can with what it's got to work with ramping up and down as needed, instead of enforcing a certain high or max setting which is not taking into account the thermal situation it's in until it's in a bad spot and needs to react to it. It will live and breathe in it's environment getting a feel for it and dealing with it accordingly. It is an improvement I think and makes the chips smarter and reactive to the real world rather than expecting to run optimally always which in the real world isn't always the case so in this way it adapts to it's environment. :D

      YourTV UnpluggedYourTV Unplugged27 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • AMD GAINS ABOUT 20 FPS WITH SMT OFF MAKE A GODDAMN VIDEO 3700X SMT OFF VS 9700K

      billy bob bobbilly bob bob29 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Motherboards are 30-40% more expensive than Z390 motherboards. And this video says exactly straight that - to get boost working as expected you need better cooling.

      cothcothหลายเดือนก่อน
    • So , you tell us how much of a consideration cooling should be on Ryzen 3000 while at the exact same time hardware unboxed puts a video out telling us how little cooling matters on Ryzen 3000 . Nice going guys , now iam as confused as a confused thing in the dark .

      MrColinbradburyMrColinbradburyหลายเดือนก่อน
    • @coth The motherboards are no more expensive than their Intel counterparts. Also, AMD needs LESS cooling than Intel parts. Try again, cuckboiii.

      Shawn PitmanShawn Pitmanหลายเดือนก่อน
  • Oh man, I was hoping to see single-Core scaling in this video. Bummer!

    TCPUDPATM PORTSTCPUDPATM PORTS2 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Couldn't care less about overclocking. So yeah AMD, another point for you.

    Rebel CrusaderRebel Crusader4 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • My Ryzen 5 3600 Stock cooler 82 celsius in Stress, its normal???

    ricardo Barrosricardo Barros4 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • We call this: Insignificant

    CosmonauteableCosmonauteable6 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • "temps are important" yet hardly anyone can get the temps to drop below 80c even on liquid coooling.....

    warmfreezewarmfreeze12 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • He likes it cold

    Adironii AAdironii A12 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • So, getting an aftermarket cooler is a good idea even if it's just a 3200G?

    Shazley SahibShazley Sahib16 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • nah thx i used calculator and difference. between 84and 60c of r15 and frequency is less than 8% but i appreciate you for showing the effects of temperature

    Mohamed ZahidinMohamed Zahidin20 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Noctua NH-D15 seems to work well

    S.A. SmithS.A. Smith21 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Whyyyyy does he tape up his CPUs?????

    egene thebestegene thebest21 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Blast freezer sales going up! Could GN test blast freezer to put the whole machine into it and see how it goes. Should take care of condensation and be able to tune down to even -20C.

    Lauri LLauri L21 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • looks like you want to keep Ryzen chips around 50 degrees Celsius. That being said, the R5 3600 being sold with a Wraith Stealth cooler....is a crime.

    FalkariosFalkarios21 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Can say this is true because during a heatwave in my area i got lower clockspeeds during benchmarks

    KvTKvT23 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • So what's a good CPU cooler these days for Ryzen 3000? Are Cooler Master 212s still the mainstream standard?

    Target -DroneTarget -Drone23 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • A 212 would do fine. But if you're not looking to break the bank, and want to maximize the chips potential, grab an AIO water cooler. These chips really do their best on any form of water. I'm on custom water I've had since 2006, it's not quite as good as more modern water blocks, but it's comparable to the best AIO's, and it does show up in benchmarks. Either that, or go with a 212 and invest in the best RAM you can afford, because you'll likely get more performance from fast RAM than you will water cooling.

      K31TH3RK31TH3R23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา
  • As an engineering student it's really hard for me to watch some of these charts on otherwise one of the most scientifically accurate review channels. 10:14 being a perfect example. 1. 90% of the area is completely unused and the real plot trend is effectively non-existend on this chart. 2. The effect of gradually plotting the chart in time is cool but discrete data measurements are rarely being connected with a linear (or spline) interpolation as it implies that you have perfect knowledge of all the infinite continuous values between measured data points. It is usually more accurate to use a point chart with a trend line approximating these values. Something like this would be more scientifically accurate though still not ideal: docdro.id/cg6DAXn The equations and trend lines here would also be debatable since it's not representing a mathematical prediction from physical theory and I guess you don't have a specific trend (ex. from a data sheet) that you are looking for either. The reverse X-axis is also hard to swallow but I get the reasons.

    matontedmatonted23 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • thanks ...hopefuly it gets also noticed by Steve :D

      matontedmatonted21 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • nice

      Petr KinkalPetr Kinkal22 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Can someone help? My 3600x runs almost always at 1.44v and on idle it jumps all over the place from 44-65 and in application to 75-85. My cpu fan sounds like a jet engine lol

    LividOrchidLividOrchid24 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • So... My computer would probably work better if it's in deep space? good to know... haha

    Maxence RMaxence R24 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • @Gamers Nexus this ram is compatible with Ryzen 3900x and Gigabyte x570 aorus pro wifi : F4-3200C16D-16GTZR ???

    ExevankekoExevankeko25 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • What temperature this CPU have? I slao have ryzen 5 3600 and temps are 50-75c is this ok?

    Mihailo AnđelićMihailo Anđelić25 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Ukleti Holandjanin Pozz, problem je resen update chipset drivera. Sada su temperature normlane. Koristim stock kuler. Napred imam 2x Arctic BioniX P120 ventilatora i pozadi imam Arctic F8 PWM. Sve je ok sad.

      Mihailo AnđelićMihailo Anđelić10 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • pozz Mihailo, koji kuler, soluciju hladjenja koristis za 3600?

      Ukleti HolandjaninUkleti Holandjanin10 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Finally, an excuse to get a custom loop.

    Birki gtsBirki gts25 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • So what cheap air cooler that beats the 212 Evo would make sense for a 3600?

    Tj SmithsonTj Smithson25 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • So is it better for me to leave my 3600x manually set to 4300Mhz or trust in the bouncing frequencies which PBO uses?

    iced coffeeiced coffee26 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • its actually amazing how late this info is..because i figured it out on my ryzen 1700 two years ago.. been getting nearly 4.2 on it the colder it is the faster it runs

    Star of EdenStar of Eden26 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • 6:40 give them a good sniff before __________________________________

    N. MadN. Mad27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Hey Steve, would you please recommend what air coolers we should be looking at which provide best performance per dollar for these Ryzen 3000 CPUs? Whether they are needed or whether the stock coolers are sufficient maybe for the higher models like 3700x and above. Thanks

    deepak shindedeepak shinde27 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • What's the best cooling solution for a 3900x build ?

    H.B.SH.B.S28 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • dont cheap out from pc case i got cooler master 511 rgb and it is AIRFLOW BEAST. awesome perfect case for oc

      Ukleti HolandjaninUkleti Holandjanin10 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • *workstation, water-cooling. *gaming, high end use from time to time. NOCTUA aircoolers or COOLER MASTER TURBO etc.

      Ukleti HolandjaninUkleti Holandjanin10 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • So putting two more 140mm fans to my raijintek tisis should make the trick!!! Nice from amd for putting that overcooling ability for us to use!!!

    Lazarus The adventurerLazarus The adventurer28 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • WTF was the point of this video? 15 min video to say “a colder CPU runs better” ? I’m lost. Can someone explain why this is an ideo

    BlueMax717BlueMax71728 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Look forward to seeing cooler performance testing 😎👍

    B Adventures VlogsB Adventures Vlogs28 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Your channel is the only one seeing what you are seeing, you are seeing too much, you are seeing what you want to see. it's too soon to make such specific conclusions.

    foff Pleasefoff Please29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Hopefully someone at GN reads this. But I'm running a 3900x on aorus master x570. Stock cpu settings. Stock bios nothing updated. Xmp set to 3200mhz 32gigs (2×16). I've done lots of testing over the past week or so. I have a 360 aio and I'm getting clock speeds of 4625 on a few cores 4650 on a few and on 3 of my cores they have maxed out at 4675. I haven't seen any other stock cpus hitting that. Anyone else having their cpu hit that high on stock?

    BeardedGamingBeardedGaming29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Finally a GN video that I understand more than 20% of.

    Stuart BriersStuart Briers29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Looks like fetching the old single stage down from the loft........ Not used since the Phenom 2 X6 days..... saw a 5000Mhz increase just from the temp drop on my old 1075T.

    Anthony DavisAnthony Davis29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I just got the Ryzen 5 3600 woth MSI B450 Tomahawk, It runs at 4000-4050 at full load with artic freezer 12 cooler at max 73 C, Is this a reasonable speed at auto settings for such a low temp?

    KingBadger3dKingBadger3d29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • so 480 or 560 AIO is perfect for thrid gen no? or over kill

    Why no privacyWhy no privacy29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • This isn't any different than 2nd gen. www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-review,5571-11.html

    Simon LiuSimon Liu29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I finally got a stable 4.4 ghz while staying under 75c during tests on my 3800x. I read a article about manually setting your fclk frequency by half your memory frequency and that improved my results the most.

    Gio BumanglagGio Bumanglag29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I know that the results may vary. But i get 3370~ points on CB15 on my Asus CH7 - 3900x at stock settings with CPU offset voltage of -0.100v. Just using a Corsair h115i pro. So it is very very strange to see these results while having such good controlled temps.

    Neikosr0xNeikosr0x29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Steve you truly are (Tech Jesus)

    mam mothmam moth29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • It would be interesting a comparison in temps between aio 240/280/360 and between a Noctua D15 (the best dual tower) and a U14 (the best single tower).

    simoSLJ89simoSLJ8929 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Please add ma62p on your cooler review

    Rick BhattacharyaRick Bhattacharya29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I want that frontier edition Vega soooo bad. I know they weren't the greatest performers but they look incredible.

    drew bellodrew bello29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • That damn row of GPU'S is sooooo sexy, I'm jelly.

    drew bellodrew bello29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • what 4300 mhz MAX under ln2 !!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂.

    Baron ArawakBaron Arawak29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Wow , wow look at the size of that nitrogen tank behind Steve.

    sky walkersky walker29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • When are you going to start talking about the insane amount of people having issues with idle voltage and WHEA BSOD issues for both AMD and Nvidia cards- no one on YT is mentioning all these glaring launch issues meanwhile Reddit is on fire. Robert from AMD and Manuel from Nvidia have started posts and surveys to try and fix all these issues that are keeping us from even using our new chips

    PC RxPC Rx29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • i think this is the reason why intel is still developing die size to performence ratio, and not shrinking die size as they are faling to get better perfornence out of it!

    Tah SinTah Sin29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Not a fan of the marketing of clock speeds but i am a fan of the autoclocking.

    Jason TateJason Tate29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • How useful is the tool kit for things other than tearing down GPUs? On topic, $50 is 4% of $1250. Therefore, better cooling is likely a reasonable upgrade for your average viewer. This is right on the edge for my current system, but might make sense for my next one.

    Clark WierdaClark Wierda29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I cant choose between ryzen 5 3600 with rtx 2060 super or ryzen 7 3700x with gtx 1660 ti. I'll be using the computer for gaming and school, and im in a magnet program that specializes in Game/Simulation Designer, Game Programmer, Game Software Developer, robotics, and Adobe industry certification. Which one will be best for me?

    ICE RyZeICE RyZe29 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • ryzen 5 3600 with rtx 2060 super <- this combo

      Jon DoesJon Does29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Cool

    普济居士普济居士29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • i honestly getting tired of hearing about amd already.. lol

    David AcevedoDavid Acevedo29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Slapping a fat ass Noctua NH D15S on my 3600

    Vigil SerusVigil Serus29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Those are some big beautiful chips.

    John GaltJohn Galt29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • God I love this fucking channel.

    Charley VelekCharley Velek29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I'll happily say goodbye to the fun of manual overclocking if a chip is capable of near-perfectly adjusting its parameters a thousand times a second in order to always have every core complex(or more ideally, every core) perform at its very best. It does actually need to do that, though, no funny business where it will shit the bed under certain conditions.

    Rick de MaaijerRick de Maaijer29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Didn't the ryzen 3900x come out already? I can't find it anywhere

    Allias MorningstarAllias Morningstar29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I don't do overclock, always play in stock... Am I in trouble ?

    Leonel Alfonso Arias MarteLeonel Alfonso Arias Marte29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Cool video, but cut your hair.

    David WillemsDavid Willems29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Okay, so as a dude with a watercooled rig with noctua fans and monoblock + 1 pump/res combo and a 280 rad, with a 2700x and gtx 1080 in the same loop that both OC in the top 1% of UserBenchmark, and with the understanding that you need to keep the 3000 series cpus below 60 degrees, = To keep below 60 you'll probably need a 1 rad & pump combo in a mid-large case for a 3700x *alone*. You can probably get away with adding a GPU to the loop but can't guarantee that the card won't make the CPU temps go up a few ticks during gameplay or post-production. = For a 3900x, you'll need to isolate a CPU loop with a massive 360-480 rad (or 2) with badass SP fans and a large case. These are so that you can keep both cpus below 60 degrees. It's expensive, but so is performance maximization in general. You're going to have a shitty time getting optimal overclocking results with air and AIO (unless you are in a room constantly in single figure temps celsius), so would not bother recommending this.

    SP PlaysSP Plays29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I think my i5 9600K beats the shit out of 3900X at 5GHz/costs . My CPU: 5 GHz costs up to a few hundreds depending on the cooler(a decent air one like Dark Rock 4/ Pro4, , or a 240/360 AIO) 3900X :well .. .costs like thousands and thousands As for pure gaming, just go and buy an i5 9600K as long as you find it at a reasonable price. I got mine new, at a price a bit lower than a 2600 non X . In my country a good X570 mobo is stupid expensive like imagine a GIGABYTE AORUS Z390 PRO at the price of a GIGABYTE AORUS Z390 MASTER plus a few tens of $. Not to mention you really need a good cooler for a 3900X or any Ryzen, so the costs are still big for a new AMD platform. As for using only the 3000 series CPU on a X470 mobo, is still not always worth. Z390 mobos are still better equiped than X470 mobos(especially in the same price range).

    ZanderLexxZanderLexx29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Imagine if Intel had these AMD people, squeezing literally every last drop, to the point where you're taking advantage of a few C for the little speed that allows.

    North East TechNorth East Tech29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Well this is gonna open up another argument section on 360mm AIO's vs 280mm AIO's for Ryzen 3000... I was considering the H115i but maybe the H150i or some other 360mm AIO is better?

    Spartan0536Spartan053629 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • so the Ryzen 9 3900X is baseclock 3,8 GHz and turbo boost clock 4,6 GHz and you only get 4.3 GHz on Ln2!!!!!! That is false advertisement, you should get at least 4.6 out of it. I would complain and demand a refund. Americans should go to court agaist them for false advertisement

    tullguttentullgutten29 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • It's not false advertising. It's single core boost vs sustained multicore.

      Nathan GambleNathan Gamble28 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • UHHMMMM You forgot about the out-of-the-box thermals... pathetic ;P

    Kyle JamesKyle James29 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • Nah, mate. These things are flying off the shelf so fast it has excess heat out of the box. ;)

      IlharesIlhares29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • so imo your losing OC fun but still get the performance. ill take it.

    Twelve NationTwelve Nation29 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • **celebrates in CoolerMaster HAF 932** 😁😁😁 I may be soon to buy a new processor, motherboard, RAM, and perhaps a power supply. But I'm not replacing this lovely case with an open front panel, a side panel fan mount, and 5.25" drive bays that I can use to add a USB C port.

    mjc0961mjc096129 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • My 3700x runs @4.4Ghz for 1.375V with good temps thanks to my Noctua nh u12a 🙂👌

    Galaxy499Galaxy49929 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Bearded Hardware = 12 384 #RIPALL #RIPJAY #RIPGN #RIPKINGPIN

    GameBacardiGameBacardi29 วันที่ผ่านมา
AMD Ryzen Frequency Scale - Temperature is Important for Ryzen 3000 CPUs