AMD Ryzen Frequency Scale - Temperature is Important for Ryzen 3000 CPUs

This video looks at AMD frequency and cold scale with full stock settings, using only Precision Boost 2 (NOT the same as PBO) and controlled temperatures.
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Article: www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3492-ryzen-cpu-thermals-matter-coolers-and-cases
In this video, we manually manage temperatures between +84 degrees Celsius and roughly -80 degrees Celsius, showing incremental steps along the way to demonstrate cold scale. The end result is that we can learn how frequency behaves versus temperature on AMD Ryzen 3000 series CPUs, focusing most on the new R9 3900X (but also relevant to the R5 3600 and R7 3700X, etc.). The end result is that better coolers and better airflow cases will improve bottom-line performance, and so should be factored into component selection.
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  • Watch our explanation of AMD's Precision Boost 2 vs. Precision Boost Overdrive here: th-vision.net/detail/%E0%B8%A7%E0%B8%B5%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%B5%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%AD-B7NzNi1xX_4.html Article: www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3492-ryzen-cpu-thermals-matter-coolers-and-cases

    Gamers NexusGamers Nexus4 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • So basically it's auto 'overclocking' as long as your thermals are good (like you would make sure if you were manually overclocking) and if not it's doing the best it can with the thermal situation it finds itself in. So instead of just maxing it until it gets too hot and needs to dial it back or do an abrupt shutdown, it scales it's capability with the live real world conditions it's facing. I actually like this, it does the best it can with what it's got to work with ramping up and down as needed, instead of enforcing a certain high or max setting which is not taking into account the thermal situation it's in until it's in a bad spot and needs to react to it. It will live and breathe in it's environment getting a feel for it and dealing with it accordingly. It is an improvement I think and makes the chips smarter and reactive to the real world rather than expecting to run optimally always which in the real world isn't always the case so in this way it adapts to it's environment. :D

      YourTV UnpluggedYourTV Unplugged4 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • AMD GAINS ABOUT 20 FPS WITH SMT OFF MAKE A GODDAMN VIDEO 3700X SMT OFF VS 9700K

      billy bob bobbilly bob bob4 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • Motherboards are 30-40% more expensive than Z390 motherboards. And this video says exactly straight that - to get boost working as expected you need better cooling.

      cothcoth4 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • So , you tell us how much of a consideration cooling should be on Ryzen 3000 while at the exact same time hardware unboxed puts a video out telling us how little cooling matters on Ryzen 3000 . Nice going guys , now iam as confused as a confused thing in the dark .

      MrColinbradburyMrColinbradbury4 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • @coth The motherboards are no more expensive than their Intel counterparts. Also, AMD needs LESS cooling than Intel parts. Try again, cuckboiii.

      Shawn PitmanShawn Pitman4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • getting myself an NH U12S to replace the stock cooler for 3700x :)

    ActionManFTWActionManFTW2 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Is it normal for one core on my 3800x to like 20c warmer then the rest, when i do all core stress testing that core is like 75c the rest are all 55c.. seems weird to me

    Kevin spaceyKevin spacey6 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Too bad my room is always hot, with 240 gallons of fish tanks, and being in the 3rd floor of my house my ambient is always really high lol.. My cpu is usually at 4180-4200 all core on my 3800x, but in games its usually only running 2 cores and they tend to jump around 4200-4400mhz. I have never really seen 4500mhz on single core benchmarks, i might see 4516 for a blip of a second but usually its like 4486. Im using a duel 360mm radiator setup, and a EK water block with 2 reservoirs, but i also have my 1080ti on the the loop, but the 1080ti is after the cpu. With 6 fans on my radiators. With room being like 76-80f usually id say this isnt bad. If i open the window and it is winter time the room temp will drop around 72-71f, and i might get 30-40mhz more over the 4180-4200 but thats it. And to be honest 50mhz, even 100 mhz doesnt really do much for fps, the gpu like he said is the biggest upgrade one can do, or memory tweaking, increasing the fclock on the cpu to 1866 gave me over a 10fps improvement in some games. to where 100mhz on the cpu did almost nothing, Ive probably spent a good $600 on my cooling setup but it really wasnt to get the BEST temps i could, it was mainly for looking and more consistant temps then air cooling. Plus watercooling my 1080ti lowered temps from the 70-80c range to more 40-50c. Now that 1080tis are about 400$ used, i suppose i could probably get a 2nd one, and another water block for it and do SLI, but i dunno if SLI is even viable today anymore

    Kevin spaceyKevin spacey6 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Pick a good case and keep your hardware running cold? I understood this when i was 16 building my first PC :\ its literally common sense...

    weehamish101weehamish1018 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • I noticed something disturbing: this Video has dislikes...

    RelRel13 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Good vid. I've been able to get my 3700x to 35c idle @4.4ghz all core by disabling pbo and changing volts to 1.3. I'm using a deep cool maelstorm rgb 240mm aio for cooling and it seems to be doing a good job.

    Shake!Shake!หลายเดือนก่อน
  • running a 3600 on baseclock with default cooler on and it seems to struggle in idle boosting up to 4,2ghz and reaching temps of 66 degrees on desktop. Anyone any advices on this?

    AztecsMyth | FJPS3LeadAztecsMyth | FJPS3Leadหลายเดือนก่อน
  • stock cooler wraith makes 3600 go so fuckin high under load

    Lord AdzLord Adzหลายเดือนก่อน
  • What can i do if my temps on 3700x reaches idles between 45 60 and stress 95+ ? I m using stock cooler with noctua thermal paste and msi gaming edge ac

    Ciprian StanCiprian Stanหลายเดือนก่อน
  • Those who buy a x570 motherboard should buy a storm Stryker PC case made by cooler master.

    Sonny12681Sonny12681หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I like how the desk is a mess all the time, it's like what we're they doing that they need that.

    Jason MajereJason Majereหลายเดือนก่อน
  • My ryzen5 3600 is running into low 80s sometimes, 80-82. I think I might need more cooling...

    Paulius PetrauskasPaulius Petrauskas2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • How to get liquid nitrogen? how to store/jeep it? Etc.

    Phillip LemmonPhillip Lemmon2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • "3000 CPUs" but you show only 3900X. Not everyone will use air conditioning due to power cost and I have higher ambient temperature of 35C+. If its getting too hot I will have 9700K instead 3700X.

    Murali DharanMurali Dharan2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • steve you were wrong!!!!!!! you said in another video pbo would never boost beyond the max clock!!!! my 3700x has hit 4.5+ on multiple cores on a stock cooler with only pbo on

    kevin hamkevin ham2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I’ve studied physics at the university. Why haven’t Pc companies utilize black body radiation theories to keep the Pc cool? You can have a cavity absorb all the radiation, and emit it elsewhere. Like a mini black hole

    Geo Tech NewsGeo Tech News2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • So 55-60c seems to be the golden-zone. That seems fairly achievable for partial-load situations like games and other software that can't thread-scale in the extreme.

    TheStigmaTheStigma3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • if i get my 3600 with stock cooler and not overclocking it will it be hot or not?

    stalkerstalker3 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • @stalker i suggest 240mm h100i platinum 🙌🏼

      Marc PangilinanMarc Pangilinan3 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • @Marc Pangilinan well 66 and 70 is not bad for a cpu you know that right i wil buy a aio from corsair too as i like how they look

      stalkerstalker3 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • It will be hot anyways, I have the 3600x and it runs on auto from 4.2-4.4ghz. I think these cpus are meant to run really hot, but I recently got a AIO Liquid Cooler from Corsair which dropped my gaming temp from 66-70C to under 60C

      Marc PangilinanMarc Pangilinan3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Pipe in a portable AC unit lmao

    Marcus ZizzoMarcus Zizzo3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • So what does "Stock" means? In BIOS i only have pbo and core autoboost. If i turn off Autoboost, then i will have 3600 and 1,1 v , 54° in stress. And if i turn off pbo, then nothing will change actually. What is the optimally settings?

    Mikhail ValterMikhail Valter3 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • @stalker если выключить авторазгон, да, пойдет. Но я бы советовал купить нормальный кулер

      Mikhail ValterMikhail Valter3 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • eyyy man do you know if the 3600 is good with the stock cooler and not overclocking the 3600 just stock no overclocking with the 3600 just out of the box with the stock cooler

      stalkerstalker3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • So what's the verdict on balance between cooler and case thermals? If my CPU cooler is really good, how much latitude do I have for a case with worse thermals but better features?

    TonkarzOfSolSystemTonkarzOfSolSystem3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • my 3200 runs at 45C when idle

    BenjiBenji3 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • You must change the power save plan to ryzen optimize the high Temps are coming from the v.core it goes up and down very fast. But when you put the energy save plan on the vcore goes down in the idle and Temps are lower.

      MetalHeadMetalHeadหลายเดือนก่อน
  • Anyone here have a ryzen 7 3700x? If so what cooler do you use and what temps do u get?

    SA4BSA4B3 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • Getting 58° on boot

      Mihul YadavMihul Yadav12 วันที่ผ่านมา
  • Did the 3900X vary more than other Zen 2 chips? I'd be interested to see a chart with the 3600; I would expect budget range cooling to vary more.

    ChicknNugtsChicknNugts3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Oh man, I was hoping to see single-Core scaling in this video. Bummer!

    TCPUDPATM PORTSTCPUDPATM PORTS3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Couldn't care less about overclocking. So yeah AMD, another point for you.

    Rebel CrusaderRebel Crusader4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • My Ryzen 5 3600 Stock cooler 82 celsius in Stress, its normal???

    ricardo Barrosricardo Barros4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • We call this: Insignificant

    CosmonauteableCosmonauteable4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • "temps are important" yet hardly anyone can get the temps to drop below 80c even on liquid coooling.....

    warmfreezewarmfreeze4 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • My 3800x is around 58-65c depending and im using an EK water block, plumbed into my 1080ti, into two reservoirs "for show mainly" and two 360mm radiators. My water cooling setup is just mainly for looks though althought it did drop my 1080ti from the 70s to the 40-50s. But yea and my room temperatue is usually 80f thanks to being a tiny room with 240 gallons of fish tanks and on the 3rd level of the house.. So yea its easy to get below 80c all cores..

      Kevin spaceyKevin spacey6 วันที่ผ่านมา
    • 64c max all the way using a Corsair H100i in a 3900x.

      XKRXKR2 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • He likes it cold

    Adironii AAdironii A4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • So, getting an aftermarket cooler is a good idea even if it's just a 3200G?

    Shazley SahibShazley Sahib4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • nah thx i used calculator and difference. between 84and 60c of r15 and frequency is less than 8% but i appreciate you for showing the effects of temperature

    Mohamed ZahidinMohamed Zahidin4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Noctua NH-D15 seems to work well

    S.A. SmithS.A. Smith4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Whyyyyy does he tape up his CPUs?????

    egene thebestegene thebest4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Blast freezer sales going up! Could GN test blast freezer to put the whole machine into it and see how it goes. Should take care of condensation and be able to tune down to even -20C.

    Lauri LLauri L4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • looks like you want to keep Ryzen chips around 50 degrees Celsius. That being said, the R5 3600 being sold with a Wraith Stealth cooler....is a crime.

    FalkariosFalkarios4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Can say this is true because during a heatwave in my area i got lower clockspeeds during benchmarks

    KvTKvT4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • So what's a good CPU cooler these days for Ryzen 3000? Are Cooler Master 212s still the mainstream standard?

    Target -DroneTarget -Drone4 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • A 212 would do fine. But if you're not looking to break the bank, and want to maximize the chips potential, grab an AIO water cooler. These chips really do their best on any form of water. I'm on custom water I've had since 2006, it's not quite as good as more modern water blocks, but it's comparable to the best AIO's, and it does show up in benchmarks. Either that, or go with a 212 and invest in the best RAM you can afford, because you'll likely get more performance from fast RAM than you will water cooling.

      K31TH3RK31TH3R3 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • As an engineering student it's really hard for me to watch some of these charts on otherwise one of the most scientifically accurate review channels. 10:14 being a perfect example. 1. 90% of the area is completely unused and the real plot trend is effectively non-existend on this chart. 2. The effect of gradually plotting the chart in time is cool but discrete data measurements are rarely being connected with a linear (or spline) interpolation as it implies that you have perfect knowledge of all the infinite continuous values between measured data points. It is usually more accurate to use a point chart with a trend line approximating these values. Something like this would be more scientifically accurate though still not ideal: docdro.id/cg6DAXn The equations and trend lines here would also be debatable since it's not representing a mathematical prediction from physical theory and I guess you don't have a specific trend (ex. from a data sheet) that you are looking for either. The reverse X-axis is also hard to swallow but I get the reasons.

    matontedmatonted4 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • thanks ...hopefuly it gets also noticed by Steve :D

      matontedmatonted4 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • nice

      Petr KinkalPetr Kinkal4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • So... My computer would probably work better if it's in deep space? good to know... haha

    Maxence RMaxence R4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • @Gamers Nexus this ram is compatible with Ryzen 3900x and Gigabyte x570 aorus pro wifi : F4-3200C16D-16GTZR ???

    ExevankekoExevankeko4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • What temperature this CPU have? I slao have ryzen 5 3600 and temps are 50-75c is this ok?

    Mihailo AnđelićMihailo Anđelić4 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • Ukleti Holandjanin Pozz, problem je resen update chipset drivera. Sada su temperature normlane. Koristim stock kuler. Napred imam 2x Arctic BioniX P120 ventilatora i pozadi imam Arctic F8 PWM. Sve je ok sad.

      Mihailo AnđelićMihailo Anđelić4 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • pozz Mihailo, koji kuler, soluciju hladjenja koristis za 3600?

      Ukleti HolandjaninUkleti Holandjanin4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Finally, an excuse to get a custom loop.

    Birki gtsBirki gts4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • So what cheap air cooler that beats the 212 Evo would make sense for a 3600?

    Tj SmithsonTj Smithson4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • So is it better for me to leave my 3600x manually set to 4300Mhz or trust in the bouncing frequencies which PBO uses?

    iced coffeeiced coffee4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • its actually amazing how late this info is..because i figured it out on my ryzen 1700 two years ago.. been getting nearly 4.2 on it the colder it is the faster it runs

    Star of EdenStar of Eden4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • 6:40 give them a good sniff before __________________________________

    N. MadN. Mad4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Hey Steve, would you please recommend what air coolers we should be looking at which provide best performance per dollar for these Ryzen 3000 CPUs? Whether they are needed or whether the stock coolers are sufficient maybe for the higher models like 3700x and above. Thanks

    deepak shindedeepak shinde4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • What's the best cooling solution for a 3900x build ?

    GamaliwaGamaliwa4 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • dont cheap out from pc case i got cooler master 511 rgb and it is AIRFLOW BEAST. awesome perfect case for oc

      Ukleti HolandjaninUkleti Holandjanin4 หลายเดือนก่อน
    • *workstation, water-cooling. *gaming, high end use from time to time. NOCTUA aircoolers or COOLER MASTER TURBO etc.

      Ukleti HolandjaninUkleti Holandjanin4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • So putting two more 140mm fans to my raijintek tisis should make the trick!!! Nice from amd for putting that overcooling ability for us to use!!!

    Lazarus The adventurerLazarus The adventurer4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • WTF was the point of this video? 15 min video to say “a colder CPU runs better” ? I’m lost. Can someone explain why this is an ideo

    BlueMax717BlueMax7174 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Look forward to seeing cooler performance testing 😎👍

    B Adventures VlogsB Adventures Vlogs4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Your channel is the only one seeing what you are seeing, you are seeing too much, you are seeing what you want to see. it's too soon to make such specific conclusions.

    foff Pleasefoff Please4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Hopefully someone at GN reads this. But I'm running a 3900x on aorus master x570. Stock cpu settings. Stock bios nothing updated. Xmp set to 3200mhz 32gigs (2×16). I've done lots of testing over the past week or so. I have a 360 aio and I'm getting clock speeds of 4625 on a few cores 4650 on a few and on 3 of my cores they have maxed out at 4675. I haven't seen any other stock cpus hitting that. Anyone else having their cpu hit that high on stock?

    BeardedGamingBeardedGaming4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Finally a GN video that I understand more than 20% of.

    Stuart BriersStuart Briers4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Looks like fetching the old single stage down from the loft........ Not used since the Phenom 2 X6 days..... saw a 5000Mhz increase just from the temp drop on my old 1075T.

    Anthony DavisAnthony Davis4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I just got the Ryzen 5 3600 woth MSI B450 Tomahawk, It runs at 4000-4050 at full load with artic freezer 12 cooler at max 73 C, Is this a reasonable speed at auto settings for such a low temp?

    KingBadger3dKingBadger3d4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • so 480 or 560 AIO is perfect for thrid gen no? or over kill

    Scrappy ChildHoodScrappy ChildHood4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • This isn't any different than 2nd gen. www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-review,5571-11.html

    Simon LiuSimon Liu4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I finally got a stable 4.4 ghz while staying under 75c during tests on my 3800x. I read a article about manually setting your fclk frequency by half your memory frequency and that improved my results the most.

    Gio BumanglagGio Bumanglag4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I know that the results may vary. But i get 3370~ points on CB15 on my Asus CH7 - 3900x at stock settings with CPU offset voltage of -0.100v. Just using a Corsair h115i pro. So it is very very strange to see these results while having such good controlled temps.

    Arnaldo Cova MasieroArnaldo Cova Masiero4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Steve you truly are (Tech Jesus)

    mam mothmam moth4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • It would be interesting a comparison in temps between aio 240/280/360 and between a Noctua D15 (the best dual tower) and a U14 (the best single tower).

    simoSLJ89simoSLJ894 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Please add ma62p on your cooler review

    Rick BhattacharyaRick Bhattacharya4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • I want that frontier edition Vega soooo bad. I know they weren't the greatest performers but they look incredible.

    drew bellodrew bello4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • That damn row of GPU'S is sooooo sexy, I'm jelly.

    drew bellodrew bello4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • what 4300 mhz MAX under ln2 !!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂.

    Baron ArawakBaron Arawak4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • Wow , wow look at the size of that nitrogen tank behind Steve.

    sky walkersky walker4 หลายเดือนก่อน
  • i think this is the reason why intel is still developing die size to performence ratio, and not shrinking die size as they are faling to get better perfornence out of it!

    Tah SinTah Sin4 หลายเดือนก่อน
AMD Ryzen Frequency Scale - Temperature is Important for Ryzen 3000 CPUs